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Anyone have any idea how much MA it would take to OHKO those snow woman things at fiesta zone 8? (With windblade)
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Updated a bit.

I'm pretty tired at the moment, so if I messed up or forgot info anywhere (which I don't think I did), I'll fix it later.
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Thank you so much for this, it really helped! c:
 
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You're welcome.

I really, really wanted to add Vamp Boss Room 1 onto this, but I wasn't able to go with Nymel (due to being over leveled), and the one person I thought I could count on to help me with this never got around to it.

If anyone would like to take the time to test how much MA it takes to OHKO there, and send me a private message with screenshots, I'd really appreciate that. It doesn't have to be the exact MA to OHKO, but please, no more than 2 MA over. Elemental AoEs only, also.
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Thanks to Lyn for taking the time to test this.
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How much MA is needed to ohko the Anemone in Karan's first trial with:

Electro Shock and Staff of Thunder

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I have around 540+ and ES 10 and I can 1hko them, I know it's not much help at all but maybe you can start from there? XD
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how much MA do we need to OHKO guardian kerbs with Radiant, Electro, Scorching and Lightwave?
 
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Can anyone test with Staff of Thunder? I'm contemplating whether I should go Water/Wind or Water/Elec.
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How much MA would I need to one shot the piggy's in soki trial with wind blade/earthquake
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How much MA would I need to one shot the piggy's in soki trial with wind blade/earthquake

An amount you'll (or anyone for that matter) probably never get. They are extremely magic resistant.

As I recall; Electro Attack only does around half their HP with 2,000 MA.
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An amount you'll (or anyone for that matter) probably never get. They are extremely magic resistant.

As I recall; Electro Attack only does around half their HP with 2,000 MA.
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If you're already higher than 321; then I'd suggest the 2nd Closed Lot of Silent Lava. You shouldn't need more than 1.5k MA, I don't think.
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with 783 MA I could 1HitKO most of guardian kerbs with both scorching and electro attack...some of them survive...i dont really know why though...
 
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with 783 MA I could 1HitKO most of guardian kerbs with both scorching and electro attack...some of them survive...i dont really know why though...
Because there are two types of Guardian Kerberos. One passive; one aggro. One with less HP/resistance, the other with more.

This thread takes into account the amount of MA needed to OHKO the stronger, aggro Kerbs. The aim is to be able to kill everything so as not to trigger M Defense Failure and have them tear you to pieces.
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839 MA ohkos both types with EA but not Scorching for the stronger ones, I suggest at the least 800+ MA (820 or higher likely) for a Fire/Elec Sheep/Wizard, and if you use Scorching, to Scorch and put some distance from it, as to not die from the Kerbs, usually if I run to the other side they tend to forget about me. I found no trouble surviving with the amount of MA I had, and roughly 2.7k DP.

I wouldn't really suggest any less MA though, really. This is all just my opinion based on my MA and stats to throw suggestions to people asking about Elec/Fire, and assuming I can recharge soon I can probably (hopefully) get to the range where Scorching ohkos, I'm guessing it's close to 900 MA.


None of this is exact, but hopefully a tad more visible in this thread. Not something to be accounted for in the OP, but something to help guide people to about where they want to aim at for MA, which is more than 839 MA if you plan on using Scorching.

This is how much health the higher resist Kerbs have after a scorching. My effects are off, but I'm the only one grinding there and I know my EAs ohko
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I'd peg the MA needed to ohko with Scorching at 850+
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tested SE, it has 2 different damages, about 2k difference

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There are two types of Kerberos on the map, one having higher HP and Resistance than the other. The 2,000 damage difference is more than likely due to that and the fact that critical hits show as normal hits for the skill.
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oh, i tested on ice bears and the sea scorpions in desert, its probably the crit difference then
 
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  • Added Scorching Earth to Guardian Kerberos!

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