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Nowadays, it's also viable to just skip blessings all together depending on each elemental path in PvE and get other skils.
The thing is.. Sou Masters,have blessings and its one of it prides things.

For this I like to remeber about then,when you use it right with a lk/hp set it can show how usefull it is :O

I was wondering.. what you think about the possibly new skill?The dark hole? :O
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In my opinion it's a waste of TM points if it is what I think it is... "neutral magic".

Unless it's some 'Shadow' attribute or something, and comes close to or out-damages stuff like Celestial Strike (which does more damage and hits more targets than Staff of Thunder without even factoring in the additional Light skills modifier on a 'support mage').

We'd need more info on how the skill has actually been doing in kTO.

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Blessing isn't useful anymore. I tend to focus on outrageous dragon only.

@Almora I watched your video lol. You fight the same way as I do. Spam spam spam lmao. But you didn't use earthquake.
I didn't learn any earth skills because they weren't useful. Tornado blast and wind gale are use to attract monsters to you while you finish them with your double blades Wind alone is already a powerful element.
May I ask about your MA and LK. I have to use LK scroll for my fire/electric sheep against 72th floor boss.
 
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That's what it's used for lol.

It makes the spawns kill themselves trying to attack you (before or after taking regular skill damage) so you can concentrate more/only on the Blob/Dragon. CT spawns don't berzerk or get an instant AC boost when hit, at least they never have for me.

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The thing is.. Sou Masters,have blessings and its one of it prides things.

For this I like to remeber about then,when you use it right with a lk/hp set it can show how usefull it is :O

I was wondering.. what you think about the possibly new skill?The dark hole? :O
Yeah x] Blessing and spaces are really what defines a SM, besides the obvious blue dress lol.

No idea about the new skill. Like Banya said, I really do want to know how it's doing it kTO. I reallyyy hope it's not neutral magic, but then again, eTO can change some stuff around like they do to boxes.

Honestly, it looks mediocre, but that may change once we actually get it and experiment with the skill ahhh. I'd be happy if it's going to be SMs' prized hard hitting 3rd job skill. HA. We can wish though :<

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@Banya: Ugh light skills are just pure OP, period. It's the 2nd strongest element in terms of raw and unboosted damage x.x Gotta love how radiant out-damages every single elemental spell sheep get

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@Van: Yup, I never touch or use earthquake/earth skills in the final boss room lol. For me, time spent not casting wind skills = huge loss in dps

I recently got a level 13 powerful arcstick, so that bumped my total buffed MA to 188x, without any fortunes or statted ears/tail. All in all, my MA is 188x and 450 luck. At the last fight, I had 1.7k MA and 410 luck on after sacrificing some MA equips for more HP. Outside of CT bossing, I just take off my luck shield and use my HP&DP shield, leaving me at 344 luck and same MA.

Honestly, after getting my level 13 stick, it only like cut 3-8 seconds off from each boss fight from 13 to 72. It's not a big difference, so yeah, if you're wind/earth, all of your damage comes from fast skill spamming xD, MA helps, but not much.

Btw, if you ever reach the last fiesta on your wind/earth SM, I can tell you how much MA you need to OHKO some mobs lol.

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Wooo, we have a discussion going on between SMs! I get lonely when I hardly see any high leveled soul masters
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thx nikeos and almora ^^, im lvl 100 atm and i noticed im more of a AoE lover =/ kind of makes me want to go wind/earth
 
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@Almora you make me look fail xD I only have 15XX MA with 33X LK
I'm using my fire/electric sheep because I guess more power.
I hope soul master gets a defensive skill soon so we no longer worry about switching equips or losing MA for HP.
Maybe like a shield that increase MD & DP from LK?
You might say nahhhh lol but in Harkon Protection Soul Master have a hard time surviving due to Scylla and Gorgon
 
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@Almora you make me look fail xD I only have 15XX MA with 33X LK
I'm using my fire/electric sheep because I guess more power.
I hope soul master gets a defensive skill soon so we no longer worry about switching equips or losing MA for HP.
Maybe like a shield that increase MD & DP from LK?
You might say nahhhh lol but in Harkon Protection Soul Master have a hard time surviving due to Scylla and Gorgon
XD You'll get there soon, don't worry! lol.

Yeah, I really do hope so. In a sense, all we have to protect ourselves is elemental shields, and most of the time, mobs just melee you to death with minimal attribute too. There's plenty of revamping needed for the SM class in general

I agree, spaces allow us to hit harder, but scyllas' mana reflector makes those hard hitting attacks we throw at them hurt even more for us x.x I'm not sure if the reflected damage is reduced by mana shield, since I don't pvp much to test with raccoons.
Gorgons are just insanely broken, I don't even know!! LOL. My only advice is play it safe and stack that HP and shadow resist, MA is your third priority because spaces will take care of that problem a bit. I sometimes go to harkon protection, but I never see you use resist D:< Unless you fused over them lol. I always have mines on, that's why you didn't see me die the last time I went with you =p

@Domo: No problem! If you're unhappy with your elements now, you can always create a new SM and play all the elements until you find your true elements to main like I did xD
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Can I ask you to test something for me (if you don't already know)? How many Wind Blades does it take to kill Queen and Soki using the space skill?
 
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@Almora I test using Maiden ghost that MD doesn't reduce damage reflected but elemental shield does :O

Anyone ever try 100% resistant before LOL

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Can I ask you to test something for me (if you don't already know)? How many Wind Blades does it take to kill Queen and Soki using the space skill?
I'll test it out today if the D/C's don't get too annoying. If I can't today, I'll do it tomorrow Dx

@Van: That's something pretty interesting. I'd +rep you for helping me test, but I can't yet T_T OH! Btw, I got rid of some debuffs from my spinel and it looks like my space works fine now, ty =D
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Mkay, so I just finished testing and here are the results:

Queen: 7 timed wind blades with only gnome on.
Soki: 6 timed wind blades with only gnome on.

I never pay attention to wind blade spam for queen since I don't kill her like that. I just gnome + whirlwind and nothing else because she dies faster that way, since it's stronger per hit and it activates her resistance change less.

As for soki, I rarely use other wind skills besides whirlwind. I always prioritize AR since it deals more damage in one go and I mainly use gnome + whirlwind and spam AR since it's faster.

Why did you want to know by the way? =o
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but i was wondering is there skill reset in myshop? if there is then i could go wind/earth?
 
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but i was wondering is there skill reset in myshop? if there is then i could go wind/earth?
Yes, there is an item called "master's authority." Each skill that you delete requires one of them. The element seal needs to be deleted too. Also, you can't just delete the seal to change elements, you have to delete ALL of that element's skills. It's pretty expensive x.x Personally, I would make a new char because low levels are really easy to level and it's not worth the $$$. But it's your choice ahhhh.
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i only got electro attack and scorching atm so that would be 2 n 2 more for the seals? i don't think thats so bad. but then again just like you said it would be a waste of money and lvling is pretty easy at the low lvls so maybe i should finish this one and then roll another one but wind/earth ^^still wish i could kill more enemys rather than just 5 at once xD

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i only got electro attack and scorching atm so that would be 2 n 2 more for the seals? i don't think thats so bad
Oh okay then. It's fine if it's a few skills =) And yup, 2 for the skills and 2 more for the seals. If you got electro shock, you also need to delete it too. Passives need to be deleted =o
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After reading this, I am now tempted to level up my wind/earth plvl sheep and freeze my fire/earth soulmaster.... Or just leave my priest in the freezer.

How well does whirlwind go at gold beattles?
I can make the ~ 1.4k for whirlwind but not the ~1.8k for windblade.
Or does gnome's work well with windblade at beetles? I find the fire debuff an issuse due to the number of targets it can hit... scorching half kills some of them with ~800ma
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How well does whirlwind go at gold beattles?
I can make the ~ 1.4k for whirlwind but not the ~1.8k for windblade.
Or does gnome's work well with windblade at beetles? I find the fire debuff an issuse due to the number of targets it can hit... scorching half kills some of them with ~800ma

I have never trained at beetles on my SM and rarely in traditional grinding spots. So I'll test for you when I have time. All I know is that they're pretty wind resistant, so the space might not work at full potential, but let's wait shall we?

I'm not understanding your last part, can you please explain more? D:

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EDIT: Here are the results from testing just now and LOL, SM's are pretty hax for the poorer people who can't afford MS to crunch in crazy amounts of MA like light/dark hyrbrids need to do in training.

All under gnome, tested at gold beetles:

Wind blade- 868 MA
Whirlwind- 681 MA
Raging storm- 879 MA

Pretty much around that MA, since gold beetles have 11,435 HP, the MA I provided for wind blade allows you to hit for 11,449-ish and same with raging and whirlwind =)
So yeah, LOL, compared to the actual like 2k+ MA needed to OHKO it without gnome, spaces are a godsend.
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I have never trained at beetles on my SM and rarely in traditional grinding spots. So I'll test for you when I have time. All I know is that they're pretty wind resistant, so the space might not work at full potential, but let's wait shall we?

I'm not understanding your last part, can you please explain more? D:
Thanks, I appreciate that.
I suppose I'll try and explain. I feel more comfartable throw in a few numbers.

First off: To work out the ma required for a skill you can eithger look it up on that thread or use the damage formula in reverse.

I have a feeling the wiki numbers for the md of the beetles. I shall start with whirlwind.

The ma required for whirlwind to kill beetles by my calculations in 1400.856, which matched well with the number given in the thread. Howoever if we have the space on, the tolerance will be 40% instead of 22%. This would mean that if you had around 817 MA you would be able to kill the beetles within the space.

This is as long as they are tagged with the space. However, if there are too many beetles within the space, not all of them are tagged. So if you cast whirlwind for example (in my case it was scroching) and whirlwind hits monsters that are not affected by the space, you will have an explosion issue.


If my calculations are correct you will need ~2067-2070 MA to 1 hit the beetles with wind blade. And 1194-1197 to kill beetles with gnome's + blade.
My question is, if you have say 1.2k MA and wish to use gnomes+ windblade, will you have the explosion issue I described above?
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I suppose I'll try and explain. I feel more comfartable throw in a few numbers.

First off: To work out the ma required for a skill you can eithger look it up on that thread or use the damage formula in reverse.

I have a feeling the wiki numbers for the md of the beetles. I shall start with whirlwind.

The ma required for whirlwind to kill beetles by my calculations in 1400.856, which matched well with the number given in the thread. Howoever if we have the space on, the tolerance will be 40% instead of 22%. This would mean that if you had around 817 MA you would be able to kill the beetles within the space.

This is as long as they are tagged with the space. However, if there are too many beetles within the space, not all of them are tagged. So if you cast whirlwind for example (in my case it was scroching) and whirlwind hits monsters that are not affected by the space, you will have an explosion issue.


If my calculations are correct you will need ~2067-2070 MA to 1 hit the beetles with wind blade. And 1194-1197 to kill beetles with gnome's + blade.
My question is, if you have say 1.2k MA and wish to use gnomes+ windblade, will you have the explosion issue I described above?
LOL I just posted the tests so I think you might've typed this before I edited xp There are a lot of factors too when the space is casted like MD also, and not just pre-existing resists that affect the MA reqs. Not to mention the GM's refuse to tell us the exact formula for space debuffs, and they say it's not a percent, so yeah.

AND to answer your space question. It's not that the space doesn't tag them. Spaces can tag an unlimited amount of targets if it permits. It's just that when you kill it like that so quick, when the monster spawns, it needs time to re-adjust it's location in order to be affected by the debuff, like around .5 to 1 second usually. You can already overkill with 1.2k, you just need to time your wind blades and give the beetles .5 to 1s to adjust and wait for the little debuff symbol on their heads before you start killing.
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