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01-26-2009   #201 (permalink)
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Now that i think about it...
Can't you also alternate like...
AAS AAAA half dash AAAA half dash AA half dash AAAA half dash AAAA half dash AAA half dash AAAA half dash AAAA half dash AA half dash AAAA half dash AAAA half dash AAAAS tears etc....

cause i think you can halfdash/shift at AAA if you have enough height. Correct me if i'm wrong.
 
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Bolded parts seem legal to me, but I'd suggest doing what you did on the 2nd bolded part, where you alternated between the 4A's and the 2A's because accidentally doing 3 of either in a row would result in a DQ :x

edit: o lunar beat me to it. you fast tiger you
i edited my post like a thousand times.. lol added ur quote cause i didn't see it
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@mai... yes from the wording u can.. but if u ask one of the judges it's illegal
aaaa half dash aa half dash aaaa half dash aa half dash aaaa etc..
HAS no consecutive unique strings to break the rules
if aaaa and aa are two unique strings.. and they are never consecutive they'll never repeat. so they never break the rules

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i edited my post like a thousand times.. lol added ur quote cause i didn't see it
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@mai... yes from the wording u can.. but if u ask one of the judges it's illegal
aaaa half dash aa half dash aaaa half dash aa half dash aaaa etc..
HAS no consecutive unique strings to break the rules
if aaaa and aa are two unique strings.. and they are never consecutive they'll never repeat. so they never break the rules
Lunar's right. The way you word it can make it seem legal, but when you actually do it, it is considered as illegal.

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i edited my post like a thousand times.. lol added ur quote cause i didn't see it
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@mai... yes from the wording u can.. but if u ask one of the judges it's illegal
aaaa half dash aa half dash aaaa half dash aa half dash aaaa etc..
HAS no consecutive unique strings to break the rules
if aaaa and aa are two unique strings.. and they are never consecutive they'll never repeat. so they never break the rules
then howa bout aaaa hd aa hd aaaa hd aa hd aaaaS dash AS dash AS tears shift AAAA hd aa hd aaaa hd aa hd aaaaA dash as dash as dodge aaaa hd aa hd aaaa hd aa hd aaa hd aaaa hd aa hd aaaa hd aa hd aaaaS dash as dash as sacred wave aaaa etc.

Note how i repeat the aaaa hd aa hd aaaa hd aa hd aaaa(insert A or S). Would this be illegal? Since the final AAAA/S would be different.
 
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o, so AA auto AA auto AA AAS auto AA dAS would be illegal?

edit: no wait, the rules say "No more than two of each unique consecutive melee strings between skills"

second edit: all the examples make more sense with what you said >> The word "consecutive" should really be edited out of the rules thread. It makes AA auto AA auto AA AAS auto AA seem legal because the AA's aren't consecutive.

fourth edit: Mis really needs to get a translator >> I've been reading through the advice he gives on this forum and realize that he explains things in such a way that only people that already know what he's talking about would understand.
For example: da du du daru daru da du du daru da du du daru daru da du du daru daru da du du daru daru da du du. No one that doesn't already know what I'm talking about will understand that.
tbh, I don't know why "consecutive" is still in there. I specifically removed that for my last edition of the rules.

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is AA stab AA AA allowed?
 
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miseri can u add "what is considered a melee string?"
into the rules? some ppl dont know
 
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Please change the rule regarding Air windmill..Encountered this problem quite a few times today.

Make it so that you cant do frontal more than 3x, but not the circular motion.

I am currently trying to learn and planning to use whirling as my starter instead of nado. Because of whirling, I will sometimes have to whirl into the city walls in which I only know how to deal with windmill. Whirling kick ss nado. So when wall... Whirling wm wm wm wm( 2-4x) kick ss nado. Perhaps adding 1 more after wm after reaching the wall due to range from opponent, but always only once for correction.

From the Klunia videos I have seen. You can indeed circular windmill past 3x, and I do not believe its cheap or anything to do so. The risk of circular windmill is mine, its not like frontal wall wm.
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Rules cannot and will not be changed at this point. On the other hand, I have no idea why you're complaining as the current rules allow you to do a full circle windmill as long as you don't do more than 2 frontals in a row.
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Eternal,

We've mentioned quite a few times that any change of the rules will delay the start of this tournament at least one week. We're too far along in scheduling to take this sort of delay. At worst case this discussion can be tabled for the next tournament.

Sorry and thank for understanding.
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Rules cannot and will not be changed at this point. On the other hand, I have no idea why you're complaining as the current rules allow you to do a full circle windmill as long as you don't do more than 2 frontals in a row.
Sieg's "windmill" is restricted to 2 consecutive hits without shifting and no more than a total of 360 degrees in a single combo

I thought 2 consecutive hits meant you can only do 2 wm hits and then a regular dash a hit. I did not know it only applied to frontal. I also thought the 360 only meant added together of all the circular motion wms added together. So can it go past 360 degrees when added? And the wm can do more than 2 consecutive hits if circular motion?

Someone said my 3 circular wm was illegal today, so I thought my interpretation was not wrong.

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WM Restriction:

If you dash the same direction in your wm, you're restricted to 2 in a row for that direction. If you shift the wm, it's perfectly fine.

66A Sp 66A Sp 66A Sp is illegal.
66A Sp 66A Sp 99A Sp is legal.


And now a question for the hosts:

In a situational position, you can do the following because of Sieg's wide dA:

66A Sp 66A Sp 99A Sp 66A, assuming all of them are non-movement cancels. EDIT: And you control the dash lengths perfectly, of course.

Would this be legal?

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^: yes. No one specified that you had to be turning in a certain direction.

The maximum length windmill that can be done under the current rules is 16 hits; 2 from each direction.

The intent of the rules is mainly to disallow the frontal wall infinite and to provide some form of hard limit on windmill in general. I think it's more than generous enough, although I do kinda wonder if any limit at all on circular windmills is necessary.
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Do launchers count?
EX: AA auto AA >>AS IA auto AA
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^: yes. No one specified that you had to be turning in a certain direction.

The maximum length windmill that can be done under the current rules is 16 hits; 2 from each direction.

The intent of the rules is mainly to disallow the frontal wall infinite and to provide some form of hard limit on windmill in general. I think it's more than generous enough, although I do kinda wonder if any limit at all on circular windmills is necessary.
does windmill cancel reset the windmill length?
 
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Yes, launchers count.

Frontal count is reset by anything that is not a frontal; the other count is not reset by anything but a complete end to the combo.
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Okay, this PST time thign is too confusing.

Can somebody tell me what 22:00 PST is?
Cause that's the one i signed up for =.=;;

Btw, i'm vs'ing Sirge lol?

Also, is it possible to do this for an eir?
AAS AAAA half dash AAAA Half Dash AA Half Dash AA Half Dash AAAAS Tears Dash AS Dash AS bomb AAAA half dash AA half dash AAAA half dash AA Half Dash AAAAA Dash AS dash AS Shout Dash AS Dash AS Sacred Wave AAAA half dash AAAA Half Dash AA Half Dash AA Half Dash AAAAS etc...

I'm concerned about the bolded areas particulary.
Wouldn't spacing be an issue? And why waste the perfectly sexy damage of Tears and wave with maxed decay?;-;
 
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Ok, since a skill is counted as a reset if it hits the opponent, can we do something like:

(For Eir) aas aaaa dash as HS dash as s dash as s dash as s (in between the dash as are the hits from HS)
 
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Ok, since a skill is counted as a reset if it hits the opponent, can we do something like:

(For Eir) aas aaaa dash as HS dash as s dash as s dash as s (in between the dash as are the hits from HS)
no.. the reset counts when u use a skill
i believe 3 stabs with lvl 4 nado is illegal as well..
 

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