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I am new to Lunia, and even newer to PvP. I have been kicked out of a group and called a cheater or noob several times for healing in PvP. What makes healing in PvP so bad? Eirs ARE a healing class, right? Why can't I do one of my jobs without getting flamed? Thanks!
 
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Unfortunately, many people dislike healers for healing, mostly because they can't control the healers. It is annoying to see a person dead on the floor, but then the healer fake-ressurects them (heals them so that they're still alive)

For now, if you want to pvp, i suggest making another class, since healing is one of an eir's main abilities, or stick to staging.

edit: or you could use moonlight pieces and the other few attacks eir has
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Because the team with the eir will have a higher chance of winning.
Its like.. if you are a good player, you get kicked a lot cause you make the team win.
So if you are healer, and it is because of your healing that you guys win, you will get kicked.
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play to win, if healing is what you want to do, then do it.

besides, healing is hellish on the mana, so constantly healing in pvp will result in you not having enough mp for anythign else = death.
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You should heal if the other team has another healer, too.
Just one healer in one of the two teams who keep healing his teammates it's cheap, imho :P
 
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from my experience, healers who heal in PvP tend to die first, since the whole team goes for the healer first. so if you want to have fun in PvP, dont heal or you die in less than 1 min. i personally dont mind healing when its 1v1 though.
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It's just because newbs hate anti-damage, if healers aren't experienced and heal a bit they're still kicked because newbs strongly dislike any kind of, reversing damage unfortunately, and no healing does not give a better advantage to the team unless the healer is extremely extremely highly experienced like Serra.

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That doesn't work (about healing makes you vulnerable in on serra lol, she has poison AoE, sonicboom knockback, air combos, knockback orbs, moon pieces that damage so much that you want to run, cancelling to attack with tears, cancelling to heal, -1/5 of hp to get 700mp...
 
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For the most part, new players don't know how to fight efficiently so it takes them significantly more effort to do damage than it takes experienced players. As such, healing against them makes you seem immortal. Against experienced players, they can easily take out the hp you heal in one combo, so it's not a big issue. In fact, healing against experienced players just means you have less mana to kill them with which is especially bad against characters that are faster and have longer reach.
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also, in 4v4 pvps a Eir can just stay back and heal and get no damage. If u stand behind from ur allies
so u can do like mana exchange move without interruption
However, some ppl might go "Get the healer!"
this does kill the healer fast, but 4 ppl on one person = gets damaged by healer's allies
so by the time the healer is dead, 3 ppl allied to the healer is at x2 and the opponent's team is hurt a lot... which is stupid

some ppl may just have one person go and fetch the healer, but in a 4v4 still risky due to interruptions. one interruption may let the healer heal or send moon pieces = huge damage
but in 1v1 pvp it's ok
 
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Healers that heal in PvP are annoying regardless of one's own skill level. People tend not to like getting their damage erased like it didn't happen...
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I don't really heal. Kills my MP. X_X Especially in balanced mode. omg it is so not worth it. lol.
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dont listen to others, healers are allowed to heal >.<
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Healers that heal in PvP are annoying regardless of one's own skill level. People tend not to like getting their damage erased like it didn't happen...
it dosent get erased, i'd gladly have a healer heal the damage i did from a combo, because that healer cant do that forever...especially when mana gets tight, any decent healer would much rather save that mana for a sleep bind combo than to heal a 500 dmg combo that was dealt...

and balance mode healing just makes things worse.
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Healers that heal in PvP are annoying regardless of one's own skill level. People tend not to like getting their damage erased like it didn't happen...
But it costs a crap load of mp... And the healer is open to attacks while the heal is going on.
 
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Yeah.
Well the healer can anlways cancel a heal, but regardless, they have a limited amount of MP.
Of course, if they hit+run, heal, then do price of sacrifice + heal...

Just get better and chase them down

But i strongly suggest you DON"T do that, because it makes a LOT of people mad.
Next game, you'll probably get kicked. or others will leave. and probably not play with you again if they see you in another room.
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I find that when you fight lower lvls, they hate healing but if you go up against the higher lvls, they don't mind - though they'll target you more.

I usually don't heal unless there's an Eir on the other team and they heal first.
 
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Only unskilled people will have problems against eirs that heal, because they can only heal if you let them. A good player won't give you that much breathing room, and at most you would only be able to cast only one beat of LoH.
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well what are they gonna do when there mana runs out? they cant cancel pos. easy prey <,< no mana and run and skill spam healers cant do anything <,<
 
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Best Solution...:

If any of you healers are having problems with people against healing, then a good solution is to join or make a room called Healing Allowed..

That way, you won't run into inexperienced nubs that won't shut up when you heal (unless they're blabbering their mouth's for you to heal them.
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its not fair to the other team if only 1 team have healers..
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