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11-25-2009   #21 (permalink)
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Wow thanks for all the inputs, i'll be sure to keep these tips in mind~!

Edit: Uh since i dont wanna create a new thread, i'll post my question here. How do you change direction using HS? Say you're facing 2 against a wall, how would you use HS to hit your opponent to your Left( or right). I've tried AAS AAAA Dash AS S 44 HS but i dash too far x.x.

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That's how you do it. As soon as you dash, you have to hit HS. The less you move, the higher chance it hits and is successful.
 
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Wow thanks for all the inputs, i'll be sure to keep these tips in mind~!

Edit: Uh since i dont wanna create a new thread, i'll post my question here. How do you change direction using HS? Say you're facing 2 against a wall, how would you use HS to hit your opponent to your Left( or right). I've tried AAS AAAA Dash AS S 44 HS but i dash too far x.x.
i think some people use 44, but it's not necessary to 44
S while-holding-down-4 HS works just fine
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ok um... the eirs not just gonna stand there after the ryan amps, and even if he casts iron bomb in other direction he can just walk back into barrier o_O
makes no sense how is it double edged it doesnt block u in any way
 
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Wow thanks for all the inputs, i'll be sure to keep these tips in mind~!

Edit: Uh since i dont wanna create a new thread, i'll post my question here. How do you change direction using HS? Say you're facing 2 against a wall, how would you use HS to hit your opponent to your Left( or right). I've tried AAS AAAA Dash AS S 44 HS but i dash too far x.x.
Better to use Dash AS 4 S HS or Dash AS S 6 Space HS, the dash just risks you moving too much forward that the opponent won't be moved forward by the HS.

Dash AS 4 S if you're just about under the opponent, Dash AS S 6 Space if there is a bit of space between you and the wall (ie. height too low for you to go under the opponent).
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ok um... the eirs not just gonna stand there after the ryan amps, and even if he casts iron bomb in other direction he can just walk back into barrier o_O
makes no sense how is it double edged it doesnt block u in any way
its not double edged in the sense that it doesnt block you, its double edged in that you want to make use of it so you tend to stay closer to the barrier and making u more susceptible to AoE

for example using MB usualy would want to make u use it for zoning game, but moving out of it to dodge iron bomb would ruin zoning game, so you usualy try to run back towards barrier to continue zoning after iron bomb is finished but bam its too predictable u c

alternatively u can also not go to the barrier and just be by urself... which also means ur screwed too lol
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I don't get it with Ryan. The only type of "ranged game" Ryan possesses is Burning Land, Sulfur Rain, and Iron Bomb. (As far as I know).

Burning Land is often at level one and slow cast. Very easy to dodge.

Sulfur is a pitiful ranged game. =w=

Iron Bomb isn't hard at all to dodge. Even if you are forced out of range of the MB. Eir should still be able to dodge the Iron Bomb and anything about to be thrown at her. It's not as bad as you make it seem, improper grammar typing john. :x
 
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its not double edged in the sense that it doesnt block you, its double edged in that you want to make use of it so you tend to stay closer to the barrier and making u more susceptible to AoE

for example using MB usualy would want to make u use it for zoning game, but moving out of it to dodge iron bomb would ruin zoning game, so you usualy try to run back towards barrier to continue zoning after iron bomb is finished but bam its too predictable u c

alternatively u can also not go to the barrier and just be by urself... which also means ur screwed too lol
You can always just move slightly up so MB is still covering you but you still dodge the AoE. When they AoE, you can always use ranged attacks such as pieces/fog (incredibly painful in my case).
 
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sieg has get up into combo ability too, just a bit harder to pull off

from the front: get up a ss voke >> a
from behind: fast windmill >> a
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sieg has get up into combo ability too, just a bit harder to pull off

from the front: get up a ss voke >> a
from behind: fast windmill >> a
lol sieg has a lot more than that =P i usually do the windmill one the most though. since for some reason people always stay behind me when im down
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lol sieg has a lot more than that =P i usually do the windmill one the most though. since for some reason people always stay behind me when im down
People tend to forget about the wakeup cancel with the dashback.

Then again, it's better to stay at the back than the front since you can get hit by almost anything lol.
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^ o ya... forgot eir has that too lol.

but almost no one stays behind u anyway so lol
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I demand a Foward-dash Wake up D8. I find S Turn for mind games is pretty useful >:O. but against skilled players i go nowhere >:. Dam i need to practice more x.x.
 
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And if you LE, some people just rush you cuz you can get hit during that time.
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Then those are the same people that most likely keep attacking for 5 seconds of your LS while you stand there <_>
 
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Lol I see those people all the time.
I stop attacking after 2-3 hits when I realize it's LS and not LE.

LOL I played those games on Eir sometimes with fake LS and people go WTF when they hit me with a weak attack or something.
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Lol I see those people all the time.
I stop attacking after 2-3 hits when I realize it's LS and not LE.

LOL I played those games on Eir sometimes with fake LS and people go WTF when they hit me with a weak attack or something.
I never played fake LS, i have to try that.

On catching ryans, i generally stay as far as possible from him as his bullets and railguns only go so far before they reach the edge of their range. I find it difficult to melee Ryans so I usually spam Pieces and wakeup-Tears/HS to damage him.

Confusing them works well too, as long as you don't dash somewhere you don't want to.

I don't like MB because rails go right through them and AoEs are just...blah.
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I never played fake LS, i have to try that.

On catching ryans, i generally stay as far as possible from him as his bullets and railguns only go so far before they reach the edge of their range. I find it difficult to melee Ryans so I usually spam Pieces and wakeup-Tears/HS to damage him.

Confusing them works well too, as long as you don't dash somewhere you don't want to.

I don't like MB because rails go right through them and AoEs are just...blah.
Note: Fake LS might not work if the person is in the process of attacking you, since they'll connect and realize it's LE that you used.

Also, you'll have to be wary of the people who keep attacking, and Ryans who even spam >>A turn S at you even if you LS.

Pray they don't notice any changes in your HP bar.
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Note: Fake LS might not work if the person is in the process of attacking you, since they'll connect and realize it's LE that you used.

Also, you'll have to be wary of the people who keep attacking, and Ryans who even spam >>A turn S at you even if you LS.

Pray they don't notice any changes in your HP bar.
Well, not if they're attacking.
Ryans spamming >>A turn S will notice the stun, in addition to the damage floating in giant gray block above my head...

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