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IiRu 09-08-2008 11:53 PM

Tia pvpers
 
hmm.....felt little sorry to just put sieg and dain's tips

this one hmm..... might be too obvious ,but I'll just post it (there are so many other ways to escape sieg's 4lv nado at wall and this is one of them.)

in pvp one Ch that having painful time with lv 4 nado attack is tia.(dain and eir are fine with it if they really know what to do with that situation.)

if u had chance to watch pro 60 lv sieg VS pro 60 lv tia most of sieg have lv4 nado (I'm talking about this based on KL's small tourney) ,cuz for tia 4lv nado is .... one of picky attack to escape if the sieg really know how to use it.

ok I'll simply explain it

when sieg used 4lv nado to tia at wall.
99% sure that sieg will do down attack to reset the damage or thundersound first or etc

let's say sieg did down attack for reset the damage than there will be three situations for tia
1-sieg did down attack too fast so tia could able to stay still lay down
2-sieg did down attack with perfect timing so tia got hit (tia automatically have to stand up or with standing attack)
3-sieg did down attack too slow so tia could able to stand up with standing attack before another down attack coming.


maybe I wrote useless words too much .... (seems ppl don't wanna read.... T.T)
when sieg did down attack I'm 99.99999999% sure that they will do back dash to cancle the sieg's down attack motion faster. Now u guys all predicted what i'm going to say ....

"one perfect timing for tia's field back stab"
all u have to watch out is sieg's back dash timing. even u were on situation #2 u still can back stab it back to them but on #2 situation u'll need few more practice to get use to it cuz, when u predicted that u are going to get hit by down attack than u have to press a quickly and cancle that movement with back stab right away. sounds easy but it will be hard when u actually try during the pvp.

there are so many ways to upgrade this movement but.... I think this is enough to start get some more new ideas

sorry Tias I can't think of anything better than this for now T.T I'll searching it more!!!!

Jumper 09-09-2008 12:02 AM

xD

The first few frames of BS aren't invincible so it probably will get canceled by the nado.

Good idea though.

IiRu 09-09-2008 12:07 AM

hi jumper, but this is not my idea ppl actually using this even now in KL they are still using it that's why sieg's trying to move upper or lower first before down attack and they try to use counter attack skill after down attack but...it's very picky one for sieg... cuz u know lv4 nado skill must success in pvp for win ^^

Jumper 09-09-2008 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by IiRu (Post 416230)
hi jumper, but this is not my idea ppl actually using this even now in KL they are still using it that's why sieg's trying to move upper or lower first before down attack and they try to use counter attack skill after down attack but...it's very picky one for sieg... cuz u know lv4 nado skill must success in pvp for win ^^

So how often does/doesn't the bs get canceled?
I'd imagine it being like failing to bs through another tia's mines; you stand too close and as soon as you step fwd from the bs you get hit.

IiRu 09-09-2008 12:27 AM

basically when u do standing attack that's invincible time for u already and ur right that bs doesn't have invincible time for start from end but u know that 4 lv nado always have a blind spot that doesn't get hit. hmmm... this one it would be better to see first before we talk I'll just start looking for video. busy dayT.T

hahaheheho 09-09-2008 12:57 PM

even if u bs them u will still get hit by nado.....

Lunar 09-09-2008 01:00 PM

that's not the point... it's to counter the dmg... it's equivalent to their dfist
same as... "hm.. y would i wake up with a when i'll still get hit by nado"
and instead u get stabbed. for 400 more dmg

IiRu 09-09-2008 01:01 PM

but....isn't it better than just wait until get hit by d-fist........
(why ppl complain too much!!!!! lol)

hahaheheho 09-09-2008 01:04 PM

well... in klunia u can do darkfog instead of bs and do the 300 dmg and still escape nado

Lunar 09-09-2008 01:07 PM

i'll take my chances with bs and tricking sieg to waste dfist..

IiRu 09-09-2008 01:07 PM

that was right move for 2 month ago in KL
cuz now darkfog can't jump over characters or any things anymore.

hahaheheho 09-09-2008 01:31 PM

it never could jump over anything. but its tia only move (other than bs) that could let her escape nado

how would bs trick sieg to waste nado?

Lunar 09-09-2008 01:34 PM

i have many ways to trick ppl to waste combos..

IiRu 09-09-2008 01:51 PM

ok vel one simple move here.
if u get hit by 4 lv nado than that sieg who used nado can do at least 3times down attack with d-fist or 4 times down attack right?(might be more or not but let's just say this way)
ok so the tia let sieg do first down attack and got bounce if that sieg just did d-fist at that time my predict move is wrong but if that sieg did one more down attack either with perfcet timing or not u can stand up and do BS right? than that sieg will get stun for 1or 1.5 second and that time already sieg missed another bounce
if the sieg has perfect timing skill with nado, d-fist he would still make D-fist, but u already gave him uncomfortable timing for D-fist so there will be high percntage to miss D- fist. and u already figured out that this is not perfect way to escape 4lv nado there are few more ways to waste that ,but this is one of good one and ppl actually using this often to 4lv sieg nado.
just keep this move in ur mind and try once
when we get back ijji's G lunia

Lunar 09-09-2008 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IiRu (Post 416707)
ok vel one simple move here.
if u get hit by 4 lv nado than that sieg who used nado can do at least 3times down attack with d-fist or 4 times down attack right?(might be more or not but let's just say this way)
ok so the tia let sieg do first down attack and got bounce if that sieg just did d-fist at that time my predict move is wrong but if that sieg did one more down attack either with perfcet timing or not u can stand up and do BS right? than that sieg will get stun for 1or 1.5 second and that time already sieg missed another bounce
if the sieg has perfect timing skill with nado, d-fist he would still make D-fist, but u already gave him uncomfortable timing for D-fist so there will be high percntage to miss D- fist. and u already figured out that this is not perfect way to escape 4lv nado there are few more ways to waste that ,but this is one of good one and ppl actually using this often to 4lv sieg nado.
just keep this move in ur mind and try once
when we get back ijji's G lunia

simplified..
if u know how nado's rotations are u can put pressure on the sieg making him miss dfist

camelopardais 09-13-2008 01:40 PM

well a lot of time tia just counter while seig is in the air

flsg 09-13-2008 01:44 PM

^ ehh....what?
shouldnt tia be the one who's in the air...lol I'm confused XD

Etna 09-13-2008 11:13 PM

^ tias often use sex appeal to charm sieg into taking the nado for her

anyway cool sounds helpful for when im walled.. ima try it if i ever use tia again since i hate sca =x

hahaheheho 09-14-2008 08:08 AM

sca has 0% of working against nado when ur back is at wall


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