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09-08-2008   #1 (permalink)
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it's about Fire heart skill

when u comboing ur oppenent to the wall and use fire heart right after blue dragon
than the fire heart get same spot with where that oppenent were down and we all know that fire heart has knock back hit with some damages if that oppenent get close to that fire heart circle.(now it's only one time)

*(before the patch fire heart had infinate knock down it self i mean whenever u get close to that fire heart circle thing u get hit and kocked down so at that time if u did what i just wrote u could able to keep doing down attack to make him stand and knock down again...
fire heart stays quite long so...it was giving enough time to kill 3000 hp with that one move. not anymore though this was past just letting u know)*

so after u put fire heart with oppenent in same spot on the first stand he will kocked back with fire heart circle(wall is back there so basically there is no moving) and after that he'll get hit by small single fire orb that coming out from circle, (u know when dain is comboing oppenent sometimes their connecting skills are on CD so they use bcb sometimes right?*or in purpose* and u see that oppenent couldn't move until that dain finish bcb skill.) it works something similar like this a little different but the idea of spoting is same.

the only thing u have to watch out is when u using fire heart after blue dragon u got a watch out the height and distance with oppenent.

This one I'm not perfectly sure in ijji's G-lunia but just an idea for us to know there are some tricky moves like this.
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So, against the wall:

combocombocombo ColdBlueDragon FireDragonHeart Downattack Backdash combocombocombo?

I'd love to try it out, but it should be escapeable just by dashing to the side x-x
 
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Works for everyone cept Dainns.

Darn those hax Dainns... o wait.

I don't feel like wasting a CBD for low damage in the next combo (since I probably used a lot of my skills to combo the opponent onto the wall already).
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some KL ppl say that it works like spotting bcb (means use bcb on kocked down oppenent spot than u know that oppenet can't move until bcb casting is done)

and some say that u have to auto step or do some other attack to hold them in that spot

I can't tell u excat one for now but the reason why I posted this is just get an idea from many of tricky moves.

we can try it on october !!!!! can't wait T.T


-xpec: how about start from fire bomb hand earth ice arrow cancle and abys it!!! for reset the damage and blue dragon !!!!oh....sounds very strong to me lol
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Hm...

How about the Abyss Rain IP(back 2) reset into Cold Dragon, then Heart?

I'm curious to see how a target behaves if its hit midair by the Heart. Or if it's not hit at all, allowing you the time for the Spacebar...

EDIT: Not that anyone would not-use Meteor after Dragon there, but it's an alternative if you already hit a meteor I guess >_>;

Also, "spotting BCB" works differently. When you BCB directly on an opponent, you're using your actual body to keep them from moving. FDH doesn't block; it just causes damage. So I guess if they try to dash they'll just get hit by the heart? x-x
 
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ppl will fall if they walk or dash through the FDH.So it will help a bit.
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instead of fdh wouldnt dd be better for lvl 60 dainns?
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It's a tricky situation to try to get both dragons to hit the target. If one dragon misses the target, the death dragon will cause the air time to continually lower, which will then cause the person to fall. I think Jin means that the FDH in this position can cause an infinite cycle of spacing for damage. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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so you mean CBD and then a FDH right under your enemy so the enemy keeps bouncing? skimmed it but i think thats what you were saying?
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it only hits once.. u can't keep bouncing
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ugh......that's smart...
got any tia tricks iiru? x.x
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so you mean CBD and then a FDH right under your enemy so the enemy keeps bouncing? skimmed it but i think thats what you were saying?
No. You spam down attack so they wake up and get knocked up by fdh. Same concept as nado space.
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Theoretical:

Combo combo combo CBD FDH (Target drops into the heart), time the Space, target is hit by a flame from the heart, dAS Combo some more

Now that I think of it this way, it might work >_>;
 
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No. You spam down attack so they wake up and get knocked up by fdh. Same concept as nado space.
u are wrong too lol
he's saying u plant fdh so when he wakes up he'll get hit by the small orbs and u can combo again or auto him so he stays there getting hit

@ gaiety... although it sounds good.. its useless. since ALMOST NO ONE can wall combo long enough for it to be useful
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Nobody can anymore since dAS's hitbox was changed during the power patch.

But from Samal's vid on youtube (not sure if it's been posted on ML yet), the diag-wall sequence does make it very possible.

Walled Dragon Heart reset dAS FB(2) Hand and start diag-walling for as much damage as you can.
 
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hitbox changed? i sitll combo O_O
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u are wrong too lol
he's saying u plant fdh so when he wakes up he'll get hit by the small orbs and u can combo again or auto him so he stays there getting hit

@ gaiety... although it sounds good.. its useless. since ALMOST NO ONE can wall combo long enough for it to be useful
Ohhhhhh post-update... Yeah. You'd basically be stunned there stuck. >.>
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Before, even if you were "on" the enemy, dAS would hit. Now, the S tends to miss (thus dA Hand and dA Abyss against the wall) when you're too close.
 
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ur description seems the same as in OB..
that's y i can still combo. cause i do a different method so i dont go under

i dunno.. i never comboed like the other dainns i never went under the opponent
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cause i do a different method so i dont go under
I auto untill its a low enough height to >>as o.o.
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