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Let's say we have a Yuki and Dainn at the max level and both have similar pvp skill. Who would win in the end? I ask because people keep saying Yuki is overpowered and I want to know how.
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Yuki would probably win. Her skills are quick to cast, powerful, and she's easy as hell to infinite with.
 
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IF they have the same skill level, judging from the pvp videos I think yuki will probably win, but I'm not sure, since yuki's not out in glunia yet =/
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I'm thinking Dainn would win.

His melee outranges Yuki's, and isn't even all that slow. If Yuki isn't meleeing Dainn, he can just send out annoying fire orbs/icearrows. Someone tell me how Yuki deals with Ice resist and FDH.
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depend on the pvper. If he or she good wins.
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Really?!
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Let's say we have a Yuki and Dainn at the max level and both have similar pvp skill. Who would win in the end? I ask because people keep saying Yuki is overpowered and I want to know how.
Since not many people have experience against Yuki's, Dainn has that disadvantage.
However, not many people are good/mastered Yuki. Yuki is given a disadvantage.
Yuki has many fast-cast skills that do high damage, even if point-blank. Dainn is given a disadvantage.
Dainn has more projectiles than Yuki. Yuki has a disadvantage.
Yuki has extremely long combos with correction, and fast attack speed. Yuki is given an advantage.
Dainn has an almighty trump card, Ice Resistance. Dainn is given a huge advantage.

Dainn would probably win.
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In a game where the only rule is No Infinites, I have no doubt that Dainn would win easily, assuming that both know how to use their characters well.
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Yuki would win by a little (close game), by her design as a close melee char. But that would change if her hp is significantly lower than Dainn (like Tia/Sieg to Dainn's). Overcoming the spinning ice orb and at higher level, the snow queen summon would be the key. However, I will also say so far I haven't really seen any vids of Yuki really beating Dainn, I would put this down to character maturity since she hasn't been out for long.

It would be funny if people starting to pump points in for ice resist just for Yuki, while sieg's have a much better mag def (utility-wise).
 
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i say dainn.. i haven't yet seen a high lvl dainn lose horribly to a yuki
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i would say dainn for sure. i dont think yuki would be able to win if dainn got the ice buff.
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Yuki would win by a little (close game), by her design as a close melee char. But that would change if her hp is significantly lower than Dainn (like Tia/Sieg to Dainn's). Overcoming the spinning ice orb and at higher level, the snow queen summon would be the key. However, I will also say so far I haven't really seen any vids of Yuki really beating Dainn, I would put this down to character maturity since she hasn't been out for long.

It would be funny if people starting to pump points in for ice resist just for Yuki, while sieg's have a much better mag def (utility-wise).
Just because Yuki's desgined as a close melee char, doesn't mean Dainn gets ass raped when Yuki tries to melee him.
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Just because Yuki's desgined as a close melee char, doesn't mean Dainn gets ass raped when Yuki tries to melee him.
No, not quite what I mean. Yuki's damaging skills are designed to be use at close range while Dainn has more of a mix of close and far. This is what I meant by close melee and what people consider Dainn as range (because his damaging skills can be hit from far bar CBD).
 
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No, not quite what I mean. Yuki's damaging skills are designed to be use at close range while Dainn has more of a mix of close and far. This is what I meant by close melee and what people consider Dainn as range (because his damaging skills can be hit from far bar CBD).
And yet Dainn can sit back and spam away with fireorbs and icearrows, then BCB if Yuki is anywhere near close.

Oh and I don't see a random ice pillar/dragon/fist hitting from yuki. Maybe the ice rain will hit.
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yuki's icerain is 2x faster than dainns. it traps u and guarantees at least 400-600 dmg
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And yet Dainn can sit back and spam away with fireorbs and icearrows, then BCB if Yuki is anywhere near close.

Oh and I don't see a random ice pillar/dragon/fist hitting from yuki. Maybe the ice rain will hit.
Not even our very own glunia pro-spam Dainns can win by sitting back, spam and win with those two moves and I really doubt klunian are really that far ahead with spamming fire orbs and ice arrows. BCB is truly one advantage Dainn has over Yuki that's unlikely to change, it will buy 1 chance per life at given cooldown but I am not sure if it's enough. In Lunia so far, close melee class holds the advantages when it comes to pvp (due to design) even when character maturity is lower (Tia/Dainn, despite Dainn being out from start).
 
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Let's say Dainn does melee in addition to projectile spam

Oh and I don't really get your last sentence. Do you mean Tia has an advantage over Dainn?

Tia didn't really give me any trouble compared to fighting other dainns...
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hey I have a question...what if the dainn bcb, and yuki throws out her spinning orb attack...

like sieg who does nado when bcbed
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Any skills that linger long enough can counter BCB.

Including but not limited to Ice Rain, Ice Dragon, Nados, Holy Spirit.
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I'd say Dainn would win.
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