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View Poll Results: Is Balanced better for pros, or noobs?
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Ah, the subject of the balance channel is usually forgotten, yet, it can be given some thought. Usually, I hear that the balance channel is where you can find some pros in low lvl chars. However, whenever I hear someone want to fight me in balance, I say ok, and it turns out he's a total noob. Does the balance channel really help? Does it really make it easier to find pros in low lvl chars? Does it really make it fair for people? Was this channel the one that invented hit and run for lower lvls? It does more damage when you hit and run for lower lvls, does it really help pros?
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Level doesnt mean pro.

Look at the amount of 5x spammers, even 6x.

Just think its unfair when those beat 3x comboers, therefore Balance was made .

It only balances the levels. It does NOT help spammers.

As for low level pros, they are made by high levels trying to keep balanced alive.
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to me the answer is no. Most the time when I pvp people in balance, they either

1)Whine about me spamming
2)Saying my lvl is too high

(Unless I'm pvping with friends, they don't whine ^^)

But the pros I don't know are always fair etc.
 
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That's not what I'm saying Eternal. Say there's a lvl 56 pro wiz fighting a lvl 34 spamming sieg. Doesn't that help the sieg more? Sure, the wiz can combo him and all, but the sieg can surely just spam dfist and skills, that do way more. Is it really necessary for pros to have to fight a noob in balance? Just so the noob has a chance to take a life? It only gives them an unnessary advantage.
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ur too late ranger.. used to be true.. until we all left it..
just not enough ppl there to have fun.. unless i can get like xpec or something. and 1v1 for hours... but that's not gonna happen

@ ranger.. it'd help the sieg have a possibility of winning.. he wont win because of defense

btw.. i just noticed our balance mode is still a bit different from klunia's.
theirs actually changes ur vit up to 500 so u would know if u need more vit or not and add str/etc
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True Lunar,

I've tried to 1v1 you on my wiz, but you just d/c and I leave xD.
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That's not what I'm saying Eternal. Say there's a lvl 56 pro wiz fighting a lvl 34 spamming sieg. Doesn't that help the sieg more? Sure, the wiz can combo him and all, but the sieg can surely just spam dfist and skills, that do way more. Is it really necessary for pros to have to fight a noob in balance? Just so the noob has a chance to take a life? It only gives them an unnessary advantage.
6x vs 5x, the advantage is qyute noticeable in free.

And.. a lvl 56 pro wiz will not lose to a lvl 34 spamming sieg...

but a lvl 34 pro sieg will lose to a lvl 56 spamming dainn in free .
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6x vs 5x, the advantage is qyute noticeable in free.

And.. a lvl 56 pro wiz will not lose to a lvl 34 spamming sieg...

but a lvl 34 pro sieg will lose to a lvl 56 spamming dainn in free .
take that dainn's lvl to 52 and
it's not true.. cause i beat a lvl 52 spamming dain in free lol
he was playing around though cause i was low lvl
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But I've beaten 2 lvl 60 noob wizs, and beaten Auri and NightofFire.

I've beaten a lvl 5X sieg in free with my lvl 12 sieg in balance, not fooling around. Ummm, LOL.
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But I've beaten 2 lvl 60 noob wizs, and beaten Auri and NightofFire.

I've beaten a lvl 5X sieg in free with my lvl 12 sieg in balance, not fooling around. Ummm, LOL.
Auri barely even PvP's in the first place, so there's really no reason to mention her name in here.
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Its ironic why people think Balance isnt fair.

If you get owned by a spammer in balance, get better instead of taking advantage of your level.

Hell, I know spammers that can beat me even though they may be 8 levels lower etc. I acknowledge them and blame myself instead of blaming on balanced.....
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I've beaten a lvl 5X sieg in free with my lvl 12 sieg in balance, not fooling around. Ummm, LOL.
so he was in free and your were in balance... how exactly can you fight in both areas at once?
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I made the poll easier to understand.

Balance helps low levels because low level = less hp in free.
Balance allows all classes to be "fair," making all skills (Nado + DF, Ice Dragon, Pieces, Sleep Bind JoG/Pieces, Poison, Backstab) hurt much less, thus not allowing players to do "one hit-ko combos."
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As for low level pros, they are made by high levels trying to keep balanced alive.
I think you give "pros" too much credit.


Most of them do it for the ego trip they get when they own someone who just started playing the game. They pretend they're "just a level 25 Sieg" when clearly, no level 25 Sieg that recently started Lunia plays like that.
 
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I guess I'm too noob because I lose to level 2xes in Balance...in 4v4s.

I don't know if there are any "pros" in Balance, but honestly, I don't really care. I'd much rather have a fun time PvPing with people I know have some talent and hand-eye coordination in Free, because the people that have this talent that I know of are around my level.
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Most of them do it for the ego trip they get when they own someone who just started playing the game. They pretend they're "just a level 25 Sieg" when clearly, no level 25 Sieg that recently started Lunia plays like that.
I dunno, I made a low level PvP Sieg just because a lot of low level PvPers simply refuse to play me on my main, even when they're not too bad themselves. And no, I've never been terribly interested in only playing the high levels players in Free; it's boring and it leaves too little room for experimenting.

Then again, I don't go announcing that I'm an alt, but I don't hide the fact that I'm not really a random newbie if someone asks.
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I also made a low lvl sieg because high lvl pvp is scarce and when I do finally find a match the way I die is always the same. Low lvl pvp with having the lack of moves to use makes it challenging to use combos. Which is giving me time to practice. It's also fun running into other peoples alts lol.
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Ah, the subject of the balance channel is usually forgotten, yet, it can be given some thought. Usually, I hear that the balance channel is where you can find some pros in low lvl chars. However, whenever I hear someone want to fight me in balance, I say ok, and it turns out he's a total noob. Does the balance channel really help? Does it really make it easier to find pros in low lvl chars? Does it really make it fair for people? Was this channel the one that invented hit and run for lower lvls? It does more damage when you hit and run for lower lvls, does it really help pros?
Can you define the arbitary term 'pro' and 'noob'?
Labelling spammers under noobs of the demeaning catagory, is just sterotypical.
Unfair, would be subjective, though I understand the concept from your point of view.

For them, it's about winning. Not 'improving' or 'do it the combo way'.
They will alter their strategies, if the consecutively lose for a long duration of time.

Though, a small group of spammers, runners or whatever-you-name it could improve by playing with 'comboers and professional veteran high-leveled skilled status player'

The Lunia community is not exactly ideal for a improve-me-to-be-able-to-PvP like your style.

I believe the solution would be to simulate a PvP experience with a PvP Tutorial of complex-coded PCs with a self-sufficient AI.
 
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Its ment for Pros beacuse free is to fast and u can just spam to win on the other hand blanaced can sustain the matches making the dmg and hp/mp fair but the skills dmg do not apply
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I just had a great example of Balance is for Pro. He was pro and lvl 21, I suck and I was lvl 43, he beat me while only lost 1 life (yaya I suck I know)

He wouldn't lose 1 life if it weren't a few lucky shot from CBD, if we were in Free, chances are he will lose more badly cuz of the lvl difference...

So, Balance is for Pro =]
 

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