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Default Multiclienting Lunia!

Alright I don't know if this can be posted her or not but I know there were a lot of people who were asking about it at one point. I'll post a link to my guide anyways and if it's against GGFTW's rules let me know and I'll remove it. It may not work for a few people but it's still something worth trying out before you die. It's a cool program lol

How to multiclient

Oh and from what I've seen both clients get a different IP address just like if you were using two different computers. So ijji can't ban you for the same IP's.
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Alright I don't know if this can be posted her or not but I know there were a lot of people who were asking about it at one point. I'll post a link to my guide anyways and if it's against GGFTW's rules let me know and I'll remove it. It may not work for a few people but it's still something worth trying out before you die. It's a cool program lol

How to multiclient

Oh and from what I've seen both clients get a different IP address just like if you were using two different computers. So ijji can't ban you for the same IP's.
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multiple comps on same router have the same IP
we'd get banned a lot time ago if they banned
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multiple comps on same router have the same IP
we'd get banned a lot time ago if they banned
You are wrong.
Virtual machines have their own network server and establish a connection with a different IP.

I don't know much about how they operate to explain this, however they are not even close to being the same.
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You are wrong.
Virtual machines have their own network server and establish a connection with a different IP.

I don't know much about how they operate to explain this, however they are not even close to being the same.
Thank you for clearing that up ^^
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the problem that I have with this software is that the graphic is so low it cant do anything beside afk. in addition, it freezes a lot of time.
 
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the problem that I have with this software is that the graphic is so low it cant do anything beside afk. in addition, it freezes a lot of time.
Virtual machines are not meant for the general computer.

You are essentially sharing 30-50% of your system power and Network bandwidth to operate the second OS.
If you have a computer with very good hardware you can get by without too much of a problem in terms of operating power, but your ISP network plan must also be able to handle the additional bandwidth being used in addition to what you're using already.

With that said, I'd recommend having moderate prior knowledge about systems and hardware specifications before ever trying to toy around with a VM.
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Yes, this is what makes the VM incredibly useful when you have to fuel 20 characters with fish for beads.
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Virtual machines are not meant for the general computer.

You are essentially sharing 30-50% of your system power and Network bandwidth to operate the second OS.
If you have a computer with very good hardware you can get by without too much of a problem in terms of operating power, but your ISP network plan must also be able to handle the additional bandwidth being used in addition to what you're using already.

With that said, I'd recommend having moderate prior knowledge about systems and hardware specifications before ever trying to toy around with a VM.
Yeah it works great as long as you got the specs to run it. For me it's laggy as hell once I get the second Lunia running. Though it's very helpful sometimes for fishing and guild contribution. Occasionally it will run well enough to dual stage to get dailies done quicker. Just have to minimize the main client outside the vmware to be able to give the vmware client more power. Hehe.
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anyone knows how to get higher graphic than 128mb on the virtual machine?
also, what is the different of 1 and 2 cores, I dont see any different for that. Ram is useful or not for vm ware. (for lunia's speed only).
usually, i turn on 1 or 2 vm with one main client, and i have enough ram to share with to the vm.
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anyone knows how to get higher graphic than 128mb on the virtual machine?
also, what is the different of 1 and 2 cores, I dont see any different for that. Ram is useful or not for vm ware. (for lunia's speed only).
usually, i turn on 1 or 2 vm with one main client, and i have enough ram to share with to the vm.
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You can go higher in video power, but it's obvious your video card can't share any more then 128mb.
I use the same model at 512, but even if I could go over 128, I wouldn't do so because that just takes away from the primary OS.

1 or 2 cores make a major difference in multitasking.
If your intent is to just run lunia alone, then the single core does the job.
If you plan to run shitloads of applications, then 2 is your better choice.

1GB of RAM is enough for any VM to run optically, but since you can spare 2 without sacrificing primary performance, the extra GB is a bonus which can help lunia run more smoothly.

You should only be running 1 VM at a time unless you want to blow 50~75% of your primary operating power, which may and most likely overheat your system and cause strong latency on your network.
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Hey Light you seem to know more about configuring it than I do... could you possibly get teamviewer or something and see what could be done with my configuration to make Lunia run more smoothly on the ware? I can get it to run it just doesn't run that well. Or I can give you my specs..

That is if you don't mind, of course.
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Having probelms with the first dwl torrent it gives me a bunch of rar. do i extract them all?
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I don't know much about how they operate to explain this, however they are not even close to being the same.
how am i wrong? i just said they dont ban for same IP's since i have the same as my brother and roommate
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Having probelms with the first dwl torrent it gives me a bunch of rar. do i extract them all?
Ooops I missed that step. Perhaps I should have been more clear with the extracting process. IIRC all you have to do is highlight all of the .rar files and rightclick one and select "Extract Here". Once you do that it should merge all the parts together as it extracts. If that doesn't work post here again and I'll go back and redownload it and touch up to my guide.
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Hey Light you seem to know more about configuring it than I do... could you possibly get teamviewer or something and see what could be done with my configuration to make Lunia run more smoothly on the ware? I can get it to run it just doesn't run that well. Or I can give you my specs..

That is if you don't mind, of course.
I'd need:
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  • VM Software being used
  • Primary and VM OS information.

That would suffice
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I'd need:
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  • VM Software being used
  • Primary and VM OS information.

That would suffice
I figured a dxdiag would probably provide the most information so I uploaded that. Oh and I have Japanese Locales atm for JLunia, in case you wondered.

DxDiag: DxDiag.txt



Not sure what you mean the VM OS information other than it being Windows XP Professional.

Hope that's everything you need to know Thanks!
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Single Core, 3GB RAM, 64 Bit Windows XP Professional, 128mb video

These I believe would be ideal, and you can up your VM video memory by sharing it with the VM RAM.
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These I believe would be ideal, and you can up your VM video memory by sharing it with the VM RAM.
How do I do that?
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This is... promotion of piracy.

But I no longer see the rule that directly prohibits that. Eh, carry on.
 

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