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08-22-2007   #61 (permalink)
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From the many things I've fortified, I found it that upgrading from +3 to +4 seems to be the "big leap" when upgrading. That is when upgrading starts getting hard. Maybe it's just my bad luck, but at least half of what I upgraded from +3 to +4 failed. It may not have broke (maybe once or twice) but it still failed. Most of the time it was +0, sometimes -1, rarely destroyed. This was without the use of catalysts. I, personally, don't use catalysts until the item has achieved at least +5.
 
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Guess What peoples, an item can break from going to +2 to +3
just happened to me on a 1st degree sword. it is only safe going to +2, not +3
 
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...i hate fortification..

but if you dont get it up to +3 atleast... you just seem to do hardly any damage...

ugh.. the horror... THE BLOODY HORROR!!

my lv 20 Eir has had ALL KINDS of crap fortifying, first it was Rotem, this was when i first heard about fortifying...

I got everything to +4.. only the boots and hairband survived to +5... nothing lived for +6...

NEXT i tried another set of Rotem...

This time only the body died going to +5... then only the boots and gloves made it to +6... boots went to +7... and im still wearing those suckers..

Finaly bored to tears, i went and got full drake..

NOTHING survived to +5...

2nd attempt
only BOOTS survived to +5... died +6

3rd attempt (the people i was with were VERY generous with they're healer stuff)
nothing survived to +5... again...

so i finaly said "ferget it"

Now i have some scorpion stuff at +3 - +5 ish all around...
only after i broke 2 bodies and a dress...

And theres absolutely one part of this whole thing thats beyond scary...

Remember when i said i first learned of fortifying with my 1st set of full rotem (what a day.. i was so happy...)

I heard catalyst improved rate.. so i bought a bunch 2s ea...

and used 20 EVERY DAMN TIME!

.. dont ask how much money is gone...
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BTW, only twice did i have anything OTHER than destroyed... both were simple '+0's

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after some more messing with it, iv'e used NO catalysts, and failed a LOT, but its mostly +0s and only 1 thing has been destroyed, got some scorpion stuff up to +4 and +5... to scared to keep going...
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Nice guide.

Also, Leg armor broke at attempt to +4.
 
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hey my character's name is crushmir i like to buy good knight items..im level 19 as of the moment..please reply
 
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nice guide, still can't get dimly ores though extraction after like hundreds of extraction =/
This guide just proves that.....it's just have bad luck, nothing more.
 
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guide is good for new beginners...

about fortifications is fairly easy if u know how much catalyst u put in everytime...it actually differs, if u put too much catalyst thers more chance of that equipment failing or even worse being destroyed...ive made about 7 +9 itms already buy i dont have enough money to make dimly upgrades. ive lost so much money on broken itms...i broke about 4 L slime sword ps: L SLIME SWORD +8 DIMLIED...i wanted to take the chance to make it +9 but it failed and got destroyed OWNED...so ultimately it comes down to how much ENOUGH catalyst u put and luck
 
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items can always break. always. even on +1, tough the chance for that is abysmal even with 20 catalysts
 
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Erm. They break on +1 really? ;o That's weird lol. Haven't heard anyone break anything even on just +1.
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it really happens. try it out enough with novice swords/whatever and 20 cata, eventually one breaks. without 20 cata it might be 1 in 1000, but it happens.
 
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Whoooo! Got lucky with my new sword!

This time I went 1-3 without catalysts, 4 with 5 catalysts, all the way to 8 with 10 catalysts each. Couldn't get to 9 because I ran out of stones, thats sword costed 11 stones per upgrade.
 
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Edited a few minor parts. Been a while before I fixed it. >.<
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um well catalsys increase ur chance of breaking too
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Omfg this is so prodigious<---I know... I'm a nerd
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That doesn't make sense then, how can catalyst increase the chance of working, and increase the chance of breaking? Wouldn't they cancel each other out or something?
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no, as they only increase the chance of getting the "destroyed" result in case of a failure

its like doing the following steps

1.) upgrading starts
2.) upgrading done, doing RNG check if success
3.) if it fails, it will do more rng checks about the failure result, which can result in +0, -1 or destroyed.

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Also: Higher grade items receive MORE bonuses after +7 on their primary and secondary stats
5th grade items gain 8/6 on +9, 6th grade even 9/6
 
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Since this is a upgrading guide topic.. I figured I'd ask here, are you going to add a more in depth look at Fortifying? I personally have no idea what most people do when fortifying. What i'm talking about is how people use their catalyst. Whats the best method for distributing them while fortifying? I personally seem to have hit a brick wall in this department. I can't find any method that works well at all T_T
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The person who wrote this guide isn't active anymore, so they won't be adding on to the guide.
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