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04-04-2008   #21 (permalink)
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lime and dacys arent kicked from pvp rooms...

they have certain rules that if they dont follow they are banned -.- if you think that means theyre overpowered, then every class is overpowered

dain cant even use fireorb or ocean in most public rooms...but in respected pvp rooms they allow it

same with lime, you can transform when u are in a room with good players because they will focus on fighting u at ur best so they can learn what to do

look at most rooms and u will see even pvplvl 30+ limes getting owned because when the only good transform is lvl 40...that lime in the tourney right now is just extremely good at reading minds because he never gets transform cancelled

and if u want to talk about stages...dacy sucks at higher lvl stages so much and so does lime. they are just support chars until u reach the boss and even then they have been both nerfed so much
 
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Uhh, why can't Dainn use Fire Orb or Fire Ocean? That seems like a pretty stupid rule.

And I think the fact that they have to have certain restrictions, especially hindering ones such as no transformations for Lime, in order to be allowed in public rooms proves that they ARE overpowered. And they have both been nerfed a lot you say? Gee, I wonder why.....
 
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every class has been nerfed alot...its just that lime and dacy had a bunch of bugs that could be exploited...it is no different than the 0 hp provoke exploit

how hard is it to cancel a 3 sec cast time transform??? even with ice it is easy to dodge away from them and even if they do transform...a few skills will kill them because they cannot dodge and cannot fall down (so 0 hp = dead)

it is the same reason transforms are banned that dainn spells like fire orb are banned too...people dont know how to get past them but all those bans stop in mid level pvp
 
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on my Dacy, the main weakness was killing my dolls before they could do any damage (the multiplier for enemies count for the dolls, meaning air combos do more damage)

Idk about Lime, but he sounds fun to fight.
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Uhh, why can't Dainn use Fire Orb or Fire Ocean? That seems like a pretty stupid rule.
For the same reason Eirs can't heal and no one should be using advanced pvp techniques on the self-proclaimed 'pros'.

Oh btw, any combo that's longer than 5 hits means you hack.

On topic: The freeze thing is KLunia test server only right now, right? Let's hope it doesn't make it to the real servers.

I can't really see too much overpoweredness, but I agree with the OP that Lime's new skills makes things BOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRING. Srsly, every time the lime transforms the other player is forced to go hit and run. And without transform mode on, the lime just mines the field and Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I kinda wonder what the spectators were saying >.>
 
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freeze thing??

ice shield thing? it is in real server too but it got nerfed (will not freeze big monsters anymore, not sure about players i havent played in a while) and the cast time for it is longer to cast all 6 shields so u can cancel it easier
 
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LOL so evrytime lime transform blow then iron hamma kill <,< . would be hella funny if they nerf sieg iron hammer instead of lime freeze haha
 
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Lime doesnt seem very fun to play in pvp as... Not really any combos..

As for finding a way to kill lime and dacy...
Siegs has been out longer than these two characters. Shouldnt the general lime/dacies be less experienced than the sieg players?

On a side note: If dacy and lime becomes the best characters at pvp. That wont be very promoting due to the fact this game is unique mostly because of combos
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dacy can combo and can stil do pvp without dolls. but lime is hella boring XD
 
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oh to whoever said "anyone with a brain would transphorme then speed buff" U CANT USE SKILLS WHEN UR IN A DIFFERENT FORM =_=
another thing is lime is buffed and nerfed
lime gets new skills taht will poon in pvp
limes skills get longer cd =_=
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when u said shooting game i thought u meant somthing else -_-
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I don't get what you mean by shooting game. O_o

I just saw lime pwnage in those vids. No shooting.
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