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You know, when you mate with someone of the same family tree as you, the child that comes out will be deformed.
It has a very high chance of deformity, but there's some instances where they end up normal.

And royalty inbreeding is a contradiction (because royalty always wants to last forever) because it's going to die out early due to all the inbreeding.
 
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I don't think you marry someone from your own royal family >> you marry into another royal family...

At any rate, as people have said there are certainly logical science reasons to not have sex w/ someone closely related to you. But those aside there is also a social stigma against doing so - maybe partially due to the fact that you are doing something that is distructive to the gene pool (a mistake which others will pay for either further down the genetic line or at least through their tax dollars)- but it also comes from it is awkward for you to have a sibling relationship that then becomes a sexual relationship and in many cases in history these relationships - marrying cousins and such were done with a much older man and a much younger woman - so it's seen as almost an abuse of their position of power within the family.
It's also just plain uncommon for people to fall in love with close family members so like most uncommon things it is awkward when it actually happens because it is so rare...
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I think the social stigma against siblings breeding probably began when two siblings had a child and it came out all deformed. Probably more than one sibling-sibling couple. But the deformed children would have been deemed as like... God's will giving you a demon-child for going against God.
 
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A friend i know, his parents are 2nd gen cousins to each other. Their kids came out fine and his brother is nice looking i might add *cough*.. I think if you're gonna fall for somebody in your tree let it be 3rd generation and farther. Anything closer and thats just wrong .. i've come to accept up to 2nd gen. because it happens *shrugs* actually they didn't know they were cousins till later on. so what can ya do lol;;
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that kinda happened in my family. uhm... back home my mom's cousin son is very nice and all of my cousins really liked him. I suppose that makes him 2nd cousin? I'm not sure how that all works. of course we were all young when that happened.
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It still shouldn't happen. Deformities aren't guaranteed in inbred children, but they're pretty high odds.
 
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We aren't really talking about literal deformities here. Most of the time it's usually genetic diseases. An uncle of mine married his cousin, their child had chronic leukemia which was eventually fatal..

Aside from the fact that you can't really have viable offspring and the so called social 'stigma' towards incest, I can't really think of anything extremely horrific about consensual inbreeding. Love is blind, after all, as cliche as that sounds.
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telling your kids that their mommy and daddy had the same great-grandparents... It's like.. /mindf**ked. lol
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lol hilarious...
all this talk about having children when sex doesn't necessarily lead to childbirth
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My friends parents are second cousins. Apparently, a lot of people do still marry their cousins? -Still thinks its weird-
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all this talk about having children when sex doesn't necessarily lead to childbirth
Inbred sex also leads to many problems between the two "victims."
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Problems? Victims?

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The desire to incest is a mental problem. If people can be victims of Down syndrome (one of the leading diseases in inbred children), why can't you be a victim of a equally-real mental issue as incestuous thoughts?
 
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The desire to incest is a mental problem. If people can be victims of Down syndrome (one of the leading diseases in inbred children), why can't you be a victim of a equally-real mental issue as incestuous thoughts?
Eh? That's like saying attraction and lust are mental issues. You might as well categorize love as a whole under that. The only thing that makes incest any different is that the other person is part of your family. If you make them ignorant to that fact, that wouldn't change the fact that they feel attracted to each other. Most if not all incest is probably not due to the fact that the other person involved is family so much as the other person is just someone that they're attracted to.

Not to mention, using your thought process, dozens of other things can be labeled as mental issues.

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Think about sociological factors.
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Think about sociological factors.
and what if it's done in private or without interaction from anyone outside of the participants?
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and what if it's done in private or without interaction from anyone outside of the participants?
^that. How many people do you know go around broadcasting they've had incest? Hm? None? Well there goes your evidence.
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I always hear people saying it's really bad to date / marry somebody of your own family tree.
....its not going to be BAD IF EVERYONE OUT OF THE MAJORITY of the population is doing it... one thing just became bad when only a few does it... this world revolves around the rule of the MAJORITY in a definite society(Utilitarianism)..if the majority demands that it is RIGHT, then the perception of the society towards that practice is right....

its like saying, having a couple of wives is bad in america especially if you are still married to another....but in Muslim society, having numerous wives is NOT BAD because they do believe its right...

so i guess it only boils down to one point on what will the society demands O_O;;.... one thing which is right to another nation or ethnicity may not be right to the other one....

and that is the main difficulty in this world, REALIZING WHAT REALLY IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO....

.,...and again WHO IS THE ONE SAYING ITS THE RIGHT OR WRONG THING TO DO....


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