ranged "carry" not the best choice in carries, pretty easy to use but doesnt shines much on teamfights, ashe is better
Cassiopeia
havent tested it but from what i saw its ult is pretty damn good and poison is just... well poison... hurts a lot
Galio
pretty good ult, specially on teamfights, it has an awesome shield who heals u if u take damage (a %), good passive (50% Mdef converted to AP), it has 2 skillshots and pretty decent damage, not the best tank, but definitelly awesome on teamfights, synergys pretty well with amumu, nunu, crank, etc (AOE ult)
Garen
most ppl go tank... idk garen doesnt shine very much, yes its a tank or a dps, and it has the most amazing starting dps with the epic twisting of doom, imo, dont buy it, there are better options
Gragas
pretty good as an off tank, it can take some hits and make harras, its ult is pretty good for teamfights, it can disrupt enemy formation with one hit, also barrels hit AOE so u can make then all take damage
Irelia
from what i've tested from irelia (only tested one build) it is pretty good, ult can get u the kill when they're going away, it has a dash attack and it can deal true damage, though i think the way to go is off tank, seen an irelia who carried whole team as an off tank
Jarvan IV
one of my mains, this character is awesome (tank DPS) it has a dash and a disable, it can slow them and throw them into air, ult is really good if u have good nuker on ur team or ppl that can go in the ult pretty easy
also good last hitter
Karma
not the best choice for supporting, it farms really well
Kennen
awesome ult, bad thing is that ur a ninja, that means u can't do a full combo of ur skills, still the ult in teamfights is awesome. good in early game and in late game
Kog'Maw
depends on ur way(AP or AD), still u can make tons of damage, having 750 range with its W and dealing %of enemy health on damage. pretty fun to play, specially when u die and kill with body,
Lee Sin
-nothing to say, its pretty new and i haven't seen anybody to impress me with it
Lux
awesome, in teamfights the double snare and the multiple doubleshield can make the difference, not the best support if not more of an AP thingy, great on early game
Malzahar
ult is awesome, one of the 3 characters who have suppress, dont 1v1 him with a squishy or ull die for sure, it is pretty good at laning and last hitting, its AOE skills are pretty good on teamfights
Maokai
pretty good on early game and if used correctly it can absorb a lot of damage with its ult on teamfights
Nidalee
awesome support killer(can heal up to 1k and deal 1.5k AP dmg as far as i've seen), despite it doesn't has ailments it can 1 combo kill u (human form, then couglar form)
Nocturne
not really much to say... a pubstomper for sure
Olaf
the bro! its awesome, it can jungle and deal tons of damage while taking hits, one of my favorites off tanks(has lifesteal, immune to ailments [ult] and deals true damage)
Pantheon
really good, not my favorite but i know it can deal tons of damage, having a stun, and heatseekers it can deal a lot of damage, also ult is really usefull for either ganking or supporting a lane while X person is B
Renekton
really good, it can take some hits while dealings tons of it, it has a stun, a dash (though its short, but it can be x2) and its Q who heals some life while dealing AOE and extreme damage, also its ult will make u very targetable and feared
Shen
the king of the tanks, it can even jungle and because he's a ninja he doesnt need to worry about mana, it can deal a lot of damage and taunt(dash taunt!) everybody, definitelly the best tank in teamfights and for ganking
Sona
havent played it with its recent changes, when i played it, it was.... qweqweqweqweqwerqweqweqweqwe
Swain
an awesome off tank, awesome at lane and with harassing abilities, it can snare and slow, and its ult will make ur enemy go FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU he healed his whole ****ing health
Trundle
the most annoying slow ever, also usable on teamfights, its ult can make as if one enemy isnt there, it can jungle and it has awesome ganking capabilities, it can also split up their team to either save allies or for ganking purposes (a pilar on jungle is the most annoying thing, consider one of ur allies dead)
Udyr
it can jungle and tank, also it can go off tank and deal a lot of damage, destroys towers pretty good and it has a stun
Urgot
awesome last hitter, it has slow + shield and suppress it can pull out a lot of damage, the type that deals damage in barrages but constantly, not an ASP/AD build if not an ArP + Ad build
it actually depends on what ur looking for or what u already have and u want to try
Just go with renekton.
Really fun and is always good for any team.
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Caitlyn
Labeled as a carry, but is definitely not the best option for a carry. She has the highest base range in the game and -can- hurt. But if you're looking for a good carry you might as well take Ashe or Yi.
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Cassiopeia
She can hurt, but is hella hard to use. Then, in my opinion, she has no set-in-stone role on a team since she's a jack-of-all-trades from what I've seen.
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Irelia
She's a really good bulky-DPS that can towards end-game just shred anything to bits 1v1. She's also a strong jungler due to Hiten Style.
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Karma
An AP-Support-Bulky-Nuke-Thing. As the name I gave her implies, she can do a lot of different roles from support (Q + R heals), to soaking damage (high HP growth combined with her E), to nuking (Q + W + E hurts a lot). Though like Cass, she doesn't do an amazing job at any of those roles.
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Kennen
Energy champs are some of the best laners in the game because they only need to worry about HP since Energy regens faster. Kennen is a pain in the ass and can just rip teams apart with ease if he's fed. Not to mention he has a stun that comes up very often.
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Kog'Maw
AD Kog is a tank-wrecker. Q decreases armor and W does %HP damage. Eats tanks alive. AP Kog is hard and mana heavy due to the heavy reliance on his ult for damage.
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Lee Sin
So new there's not much to say. Banshee's Veil wrecks him badly (blocks 2 abilities as opposed to 1). He needs to be work on, especially since he eats his Energy like crazy.
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Lux
Goddess of cc, and with solid damage output as well. She has the best range on skills (that I know of) allowing her to avoid damage easily.
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Malzahar
Malz's 1v1 burst is right up there with that of Annie, Anivia, and Akali. With his full combo he can pretty much demolish most non-tanks. He's actually pretty fun too.
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Nocturne
Pubstomper. Relies on your opponents being stupid, otherwise he's fairly easy to counter. However, I will not say he's garbage. He has a lot of skill steroids which can make him incredibly strong. Downside, cc is his worse nightmare. /shot
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Renekton
A mana-less champion. A big plus for the laning phase if you're not a very good mana-manager (like me). He (like Irelia) is also a fairly solid bulky-DPS champ. that can output some serious damage. Between him and Irelia I'd pick him.
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Shen
King of tanks, along with Rammus. Being an Energy user is again, a major plus. Having a taunt makes him a very deadly tank, not to mention with his ult he has global presence.
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Sona
Like said earlier, even with the changes it's pretty much still QWEQWEQWEQWE occasional R and occasional auto-attack. Not the greatest support either.
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Swain
Tanky-mage just like Karma, though less aimed at supporting and more at damaging. Has a really great laning phase especially when you combine his ult that heals him and his passive that regens his mana when he kills something.
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Udyr
King of the jungle pretty much. If you get him, I'd make sure you're also equipped to jungle him since he lanes -really- badly. Great tanky-DPS as well and can just wreck entire teams and still take minimal damage.
Between only Irelia and Renekton, I'd go Renekton. Going for the entire list, I'd recommend Udyr if you like jungling (and he is bulky just like Renekton as well).
Garen -good dps tank with lane control due the recent buff (with bush)
Gragas -good cc tank
Irelia -good solo lane, good jungle, good carry
Jarvan IV -awesome solo lane, good jungle, good tanky dps
Karma -underrated supporter, capable of doing damage while protecting you
Kennen -good ap carry, good teamfight potential
Kog'Maw -awesome glasscannon, get a team which protects you = win-
Lux -awesome cc, lanecontrol, ap carry potential and support
Malzahar -awesome burst mage and farmer, disabler
Nocturne -awesome jungle, solo lane (even so your pushy), offtank assasin
Olaf -awesome jungle, anticarry, anticc, anti...everything just a viking
Renekton -awesome solo lane, good jungle, offtank heavy dps
Shen -good cc tank with mapawareness and protection
Swain -good cc ap carry, good solo lane
Udyr -awesome jungle, offtank, lack of dps in mid-end without dps item
Jarvan IV - pretty tanky champion, has 3 AoE crowd control abilities and works great with the team to trap and kill squishies without a blink (or anyone that just isn't smart enough to blink).
Kennen - very strong AoE damage and stuns, but if the game lasts too long, he'll probably die way too fast to pull off stuns.
Kog'Maw - AD or AP kog, both kill tanks fast, I find AD kog pretty boring though as it's mainly W and autoattack.
and I don't agree with anyone saying AP kog is mana intensive: with the right build he can sustain his mana in team fights.
Lee Sin - I heard he is UP atm
Lux - great crowd control, great shield, great damage and carrying potential.
She is also very cheap with her long ass ranged skills, though you need to be good with skill shots to play her.
Maokai - he's a pretty supportive tank, he doesn't deal as much damage as tanks like shen or malphite but that ulti really makes a difference in team fights.
Shen - nice 2sec AoE taunt, and his ulti makes for great ganks.
Sona - pretty UP, her heal is really weak and her attack skill only hits hard early game but her ulti works nicely combined with AoE stuns from the team and her speed buff makes running/chasing easier and her new passive is pretty useful too.
Swain - nice tanky mage but he can't survive against heavy burst damage even with his ulti on.
I've excluded champions I either don't like or just don't know enough about.
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well idk if your gonna do normal games or ranked but ones in your list the are definatly good imo are:
Olaf:amazing jungler,can jungle easy w/o smite and has some AMAZING ganks, and overall very strong tanky-dps, BROLAFFFF- best skin name in game
kennen: he has a really good AoE game changing ult, and has amazing farmin+harrassing capabilities, and best of all, NO MANA!!! <3 (energy though)
Galio: amazing tank, off-tank and pure AP champ, has a awsome ult, and Riot games said that they noticed galio is really fked up so they gonna be doing constant changes to make him stong again, so he is gonna get buffed (they said that they are gonna increase the size of his ult for sure)
thats pretty much all the champs i sum-what know about/ like, i want irelia but idk anything about her XD
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Last edited by skilledspell; 04-03-2011 at 04:23 AM.
i dont think you should jungle without smite, ever... why? because if the enemy teams jungler is any skilled, theyll just ward your buffs and smite it off you, same as dragon, same as baron, how to counter that? kill him or make him recall,
He can still do it though. It's around as fast as a shen jungle.....which is like tier 3 in my mind.
But ur team must be pretty evil/terrible to make renekton jungle.
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I mostly like ranged chars, I suppose. Makes it easier to harass and safer in creep killing. I am messing around with tankier melee champs, though.
That's a lot of champions to look at. I can help narrow it down to a few that I really recommend.
If you're really looking for ranged characters with good harass, I'll just narrow it down to 3:
Caitlyn - Good harass and very capable farmer of minions. You REALLY REALLY need that farm. Does decently well in team encounters and effective in small group fights.
Cassiopeia - Poison does considerable amount of damage even if you do not get a twin fang off. But if you do, that's a lot of damage. Fairly tough with good CC ult in team encounters.
Urgot - The missiles autolock poisoned opposing champions. Swap ult is fantastic in both team fights and small group fights.
Experimenting with tankier melee champs? I suggest you keep going with your original leaning towards Irelia/Renekton.
Irelia - Dash/Equilibrium gives you good burst early if you build sheen. Her ult and Hiten replenishes your health fairly fast. Be careful in team fights due to her being more squishy than someone like Renekton.
Renekton - Terrific laning. Does considerably well against many opponents. Good tower diver and very tough.
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