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real ezreal. sure he was outshined by other ad ranged carries but imo he was fine. buff not needed
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real ezreal. sure he was outshined by other ad ranged carries but imo he was fine. buff not needed
If he's outshined, either the other champs need a nerf or he needs a buff. -.-
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Ezreal incoming OP ranged carry.
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If he's outshined, either the other champs need a nerf or he needs a buff. -.-
thats with almost every class.

for tank shen just dominates
jungle ww nunu mumu
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he was fine, he could do his job. and boo you n00b ezreal lover
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thats with almost every class.

for tank shen just dominates
jungle ww nunu mumu
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he was fine, he could do his job. and boo you n00b ezreal lover
Except for the fact that Corki does everything Ezreal can, but better.

Shen dominates the tank department because of his strong CC AND global presence, with the latter being the more important part.

For junglers, almost all of them are equally viable.

How the carries should be balanced:
Oh you need a strong late game carry, we'll go with Tristana or Kog'Maw.
Oh you need a strong mid game carry, we'll go Ezreal or Corki.
Oh you need a strong laning/mid game carry, we'll go Miss Fortune or Urgot.
Oh you need a strong CC, we'll go Ashe.
Oh you need strong pokes, we'll go Ashe, Ezreal or Urgot.

Something like that.

Right now, the strongest late game carry is Corki, the strongest mid game carry is Corki and he's not even bad in lane. The only thing that Corki lacks is Ashe's huge amounts of CC.

But honestly, I think Corki needs a nerf more than anything.
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I guess ill try out that "buffed" ad ez before judging about it.
Wondering how my hybrid ez goes now.

Corki is just a too powerful carry i think.. he got like everything to evade melees while doing more damage than range.
 
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Corki does need a nerf...

Anyways, I want AP Ez back >.>, specifically the healing part. Though you must have AP in order for it to heal... also 1:1 scaling of AP on ult D:..

Also, I hope they take away the suppression on WW's ult. Its not needed to make him a viable champion... Why did they even add that in the first place...Now his Q might be nerfed D::: or his base stats.

Or even take away the team buff on his W.. or both suppression and W! just not.. not.. not his Q D::::

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Also, I hope they take away the suppression on WW's ult. Its not needed to make him a viable champion... Why did they even add that in the first place...Now his Q might be nerfed D::: or his base stats.
So what happens when he uses it? Would people just be able to walk right out of it? The suppression is there so you can't just walk out of his ult. Without it, his ult. is useless.
sounds like someone got owned by a good WW recently.... +_+;;
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So what happens when he uses it? Would people just be able to walk right out of it? The suppression is there so you can't just walk out of his ult. Without it, his ult. is useless.
sounds like someone got owned by a good WW recently.... +_+;;
mm, maybe i shouldn't have used the word suppression.

I mean so that the dps can cleanse out of the ult with the SS cleanse
 
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Cleanse is still good.

Being able to completely counter Malzahar's ult with Cleanse is really dumb.

Warwick isn't even a top jungler anymore.
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Cleanse is still good.

Being able to completely counter Malzahar's ult with Cleanse is really dumb.

Warwick isn't even a top jungler anymore.
So you dont think WW is getting nerfed soon?

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Tbh, I think I should learn Trundle as a backup, in addition to Udyr...

Actually... not so sure.. I dont really like their gameplay...... mm... I got it!!

I will play more tank yi!

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why would they nerf ww. he isnt op at all.
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So what happens when he uses it? Would people just be able to walk right out of it? The suppression is there so you can't just walk out of his ult. Without it, his ult. is useless.
sounds like someone got owned by a good WW recently.... +_+;;
I SEE THAT MESSAGE.

But suppressions didn't always exist, obviously. Used to, WW was pretty useless. Especially during the time where 90% of everyone carried Flash/Cleanse or Ghost/Cleanse. =w=; So annoying.

And yeah. WW is pretty much ruined w/o his ultimate.
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Cleanse is still good.

Being able to completely counter Malzahar's ult with Cleanse is really dumb.

Warwick isn't even a top jungler anymore.
You're referring to Cleanse or QSS? QSS cleanses all debuffs. It's a kick in the nuts to Vlad, Mordekaiser, Ignite, Malzahar, etc.

Cleanse just cleanses stuns, snares, slows, taunts, and fears. Not suppressions. :S
 
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You're referring to Cleanse or QSS? QSS cleanses all debuffs. It's a kick in the nuts to Vlad, Mordekaiser, Ignite, Malzahar, etc.

Cleanse just cleanses stuns, snares, slows, taunts, and fears. Not suppressions. :S
Cleanse, the summoner skill, is still good and is a viable choice depending on the enemy team's line-up.

Pre-suppression meant Cleanse could cancel Malzahar's ult, which is really a lot of Malzahar's CC/utility/damage.
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mm, maybe i shouldn't have used the word suppression.

I mean so that the dps can cleanse out of the ult with the SS cleanse
There are only three ultimates in the game with a suppression: Urgot, Malzahar, and Warwick. Those three ultimates are the only three in the game that force the user to stand in place for the duration. Re-adding the ability to cleanse suppression (it used to be) would force the user, especially Warwick since it puts him in melee range, to become a suicide bomb, and most likely make that character useless in any team fight (or be forced to target a less deadly target).

Those three champs. with suppression are fine, it's not like 95% of the champions have it anyways.
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Just that somehow I think..WW is the most OP champion out there. When I play Ranged dps.. I abhor WW on the opponent team more than anyone else D::::::;

+ he is tier one on all of Elementz's tier list...D::::

if someone like bigfatjiji makes a thread on how WW is most OP ... D::::
 
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Just because Elementz says he's tier 1, doesn't mean he's actually that good.... =0=
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I didnt really see any good ww's lately, in neither normal nor ranked.
There are way better junglers who are able to gang, even so he can start out with boots first if he pleases to.

Olaf and Udyr are just way faster with buffs and stuff and can actually help the team out with their slow and stun while WW can just use one stun a in while and has to melee others in order to slow them with lizard, which can be quite hard.

In teamfights he isnt that good i think... its like -hey lets ulti their carry, why does janna hate me....-

but he dies so slow when he can attack.. feels like a dota naix
 
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Hmmm... The minions are going to be tough to deal with late game. Janna took a huge blow on that nerf. And wtf, ghost reduced duration? Lame... Well at least Ezreal got "some" love, I'm happy with that.
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