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I tried it on ezreal today and it felt a lot stronger.
 
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Because the Sheen proc component got buffed from 150% to 200%, that's pretty huge.

I wouldn't be surprised if people started building it again, it's really good now.
 
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The new phage passive also improved ezreals quality of life (and it looks pretty on frosted ezreal).
 
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Tried it on Ez, still prefer Iceborn Gauntlet. It's much easier for sticking to a target with an AoE slow than a 2 sec movement speed buff (unless you're in melee range using Q/auto attack range obviously).
 
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Trinity is something I always used on Irelia, after hearing that the speed buff is applied even if you're hitting a simple minion my opinion had changed.

Boots continue to seem worthless as changes are made, outside of the boots2 passive and minor speed buff there's no reason to get them until a lot later in the game, especially if you're now a phage user.
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Trinity is something I always used on Irelia, after hearing that the speed buff is applied even if you're hitting a simple minion my opinion had changed.

Boots continue to seem worthless as changes are made, outside of the boots2 passive and minor speed buff there's no reason to get them until a lot later in the game, especially if you're now a phage user.
Phage gives you 20 move speed for 2 sec, on hit.
Boots give you 25 movement speed permanently.

Idk what you're on.
 
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Phage gives you 20 move speed for 2 sec, on hit.
Boots give you 25 movement speed permanently.

Idk what you're on.
During the lane phase it's all you'd need, if you're ranged you can kite to your tower should a potential gank occur or chase down a fleeing enemy even if they have boots.

The only time it seems worthwhile to get boots is if your enemy is more mobile than you (or has phage & boots already), or when your lane phase has ended and you intend to gank other lanes.
I'd much rather put the gold towards earlier damage over a little speed if it's viable to do so and the new phage makes it easier to do both.
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During the lane phase it's all you'd need, if you're ranged you can kite to your tower should a potential gank occur or chase down a fleeing enemy even if they have boots.

The only time it seems worthwhile to get boots is if your enemy is more mobile than you (or has phage & boots already), or when your lane phase has ended and you intend to gank other lanes.
I'd much rather put the gold towards earlier damage over a little speed if it's viable to do so and the new phage makes it easier to do both.
What about skill shots? You can't dodge it if you're in the middle of auto attacking for your movement speed.

and what Vixen said.

Yeah, it's fine to buy Phage before boots, but I'm under the impression that you're saying boots aren't needed at all until late game (since you said "a lot later in the game") which really isn't true unless you're someone like Trynd with a million escapes.
 
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Yeah, it's fine to buy Phage before boots, but I'm under the impression that you're saying boots aren't needed at all until late game (since you said "a lot later in the game") which really isn't true unless you're someone like Trynd with a million escapes.
It would depend on our definitions of late game, typically in Season 2 I'd try to get boots around the 7~10 minute mark depending on farm (or straight away), the 45 movement speed was quite important.

With Season 3 my teammates and I can delay this until around the 15~25 minute mark depending on the above circumstances and composition/aggression of the lane, with Phage I'll still maintain that time frame but feel more comfortable about it. Because movement speed is only improved by 25 it makes little difference having them, dodging skill shots will always require good reaction time over a tiny speed boost.
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It would depend on our definitions of late game, typically in Season 2 I'd try to get boots around the 7~10 minute mark depending on farm (or straight away), the 45 movement speed was quite important.

With Season 3 my teammates and I can delay this until around the 15~25 minute mark depending on the above circumstances and composition/aggression of the lane, with Phage I'll still maintain that time frame but feel more comfortable about it. Because movement speed is only improved by 25 it makes little difference having them, dodging skill shots will always require good reaction time over a tiny speed boost.
15 mins is ok, 25 mins seems a bit extreme but yes, it's all dependent on the situation of the game.
 
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15 mins is ok, 25 mins seems a bit extreme but yes, it's all dependent on the situation of the game.
I usually go 17-28 minutes before I buy basic boots
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It's fine to go no boots as supports for a long time, since your main job is to protect the AD carry and you boots aren't needed for that at all.

Unless you're Taric.
Aye I know. It's a bit of a joke with me and some friends.
"Metty why don't you have even basic boots yet? It's been 30 minutes."
"Not fed enough, I'm only 3/2/15 and wards aren't cheap."

I buy like 5-8 wards at a time and light up the entire map and use RSS for objective warding.
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Aye I know. It's a bit of a joke with me and some friends.
"Metty why don't you have even basic boots yet? It's been 30 minutes."
"Not fed enough, I'm only 3/2/15 and wards aren't cheap."

I buy like 5-8 wards at a time and light up the entire map and use RSS for objective warding.
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Only asking because at one time TF got so expensive someone told me it wasn't worth anymore.
Last I saw trinity dropped down in price, but 3 items made into 1 and even stronger than before was easily worth the asking price regardless.
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Last I saw trinity dropped down in price, but 3 items made into 1 and even stronger than before was easily worth the asking price regardless.
I meant before it dropped in price because I haven't played Irelia in ages.
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