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Surrender at 20: 2/14 PBE Update: Quinn

Taric changes? Whatttttttttt? Working on him maybe meaning visual update in the coming months?

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The PBE has been updated and I'm delighted to say Quinn and Valor are finally here!
Continue reading for a closer look at Quinn and Valor, their abilities, lore, and more, as well as updates to Smart Ping and oodles of balance changes!

( Warning: PBE content is highly tentative and subject to change! Some of this information may have been datamined and could likely be erroneous. )

Quinn and Valor
Quinn and her bird Valor function as a dynamic duo on the battlefield! By way of their passive, Valor swoops into the battlefield to mark enemies or is sent to attack and blind enemies in a straight line using Quinn's Q. Their W interacts with their passive giving Quinn bonus attack speed when attacking marked enemies. Quinn's E is a pretty bad ass flip kick that slows enemies and jumps her back to her auto attack range. When Quinn activates her ultimate, Valor swoops down on to the battlefield and you instead control him. He has massive movement speed and can still use versions of Quinn's normal abilities. Upon reactivating the ult, Quinn returns to the battlefield in a hail of arrows, damaging those caught in her wake.

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Here is a short video showing off her abilities and animations. Be sure to check out the "Squawk Squawk" jokes!




"Phoenix" Quinn and Valor
Not yet available for testing and Valor was messed up in my model viewer.



Abilities:
Harrier ( Passive )
Valor periodically marks enemies as Vulnerable. Quinn's first attack against Vulnerable targets will deal bonus (+ ~.5 AD ) physical damage.

Blinding Assault ( Q )
Valor flies in a line and strikes the first enemy in his path. He then attacks all nearby enemies to deal 70/110/150/190/230 (+ ~.65 AD) physical damage and blind them for 1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5 seconds.
As Valor: Performs the same attack at the current location.

Mana Cost: 60/65/70/75/80 | Range: 1025 | Cooldown: 11/10/9/8/7

Heightened Senses ( W )
Passive: Attacking a Vulnerable target will increase Quinn's Attack Speed by 20/25/30/35/40% for 3/3/3/3/3 seconds.
Passive as Valor: Gains 40/50/60/70/80% Attack Speed.
Active: Valor reveals a large area nearby for 2/2/2/2/2 seconds.

Mana Cost: 0 | Range: 2100 | Cooldown: 50/45/40/35/30

Vault ( E )
Quinn dashes to an enemy, dealing 40/70/100/130/160 (+ ~.2) physical damage and slowing the target's Movement Speed by 70/70/70/70/70% (this effect diminishes over 2/2/2/2/2 seconds). Upon reaching the target, she leaps off and lands near her maximum attack range from it. Valor will immediately mark this enemy as Vulnerable.
As Valor: Performs the same attack but does not mark or leap off the target.

Mana Cost: 50/50/50/50/50 | Range: 750 | Cooldown: 12/11/10/9/8

Tag Team ( R )
First Cast: Valor replaces Quinn on the battlefield as a mobile melee attacker for 20/20/20 seconds. Valor gains +80/80/80% Movement Speed, decreased gradually to +20/20/20% when in combat.
Second Cast: Quinn returns to perform Skystrike, dealing from 130/185/240 (+ ~.5 AD) to 260/370/480 (+ ~1 AD) physical damage to all enemies in a large area, increasing based on how much health they are missing.
If Skystrike has not been cast before this ability ends, it will be cast automatically.

Mana Cost: 100/100/100| Range: 700 | Cooldown: 140/120/100

Base Stats:
Damage: 48 (+ 3 )
Health: 372 (+ 85 )
Mana: 210 (+ 35 )
Movement Speed: 330
Armor: 11 (+ 3.5 )
Magic Resist: 30 (+ 0 )
Health Per 5 Sec: 4.5 (+ 0.55 )
Mana Per 5 Sec: 6.3 (+ 0.4 )
Range: 525
Lore:
"Quinn and Valor are an elite ranger team. With crossbow and claw, they undertake their nation's most dangerous missions deep within enemy territory, from swift reconnaissance to lethal strikes. The pair's unbreakable bond is deadly on the battlefield, leaving opponents blind and riddled with arrows long before they realize who they're fighting: not one, but two Demacian legends.
As a young girl, Quinn shared a hunger for adventure with her twin brother. They dreamed of becoming knights, but lived a quiet, humble life in the rural borderlands of Demacia. Together they imagined triumphant battles in faraway lands, seizing glory for their king and slaying foes in the name of Demacian justice. When daydreams alone could no longer satisfy their warriors souls, they embarked on daring wilderness adventures in search of true danger. One such quest turned to tragedy when a terrible accident claimed her brother's life. Overcome with grief, Quinn abandoned her dreams of knighthood.
On the anniversary of her loss, Quinn gathered the courage to return to the scene of the tragedy. To her surprise, she found a wounded Demacian eagle at the site of her brother's death - a rare and beautiful bird long believed extinct. Quinn nursed the fledgling back to health, and as they grew up together, a deep bond formed between the two. She saw the same quality in her newfound friend that had lived within her brother, and so she gave him the name ''Valor.'' The pair found strength in each other, and together they pursued the dream she had once abandoned.
The Demacian army had never seen heroes like Quinn and Valor. Their deadly skills quickly set them apart from their rank-and-file peers, but many still had their doubts. How could a common-born girl, even with such a powerful creature at her side, forego years of military training? Quinn and Valor proved themselves on one critical mission, tracking down a Noxian assassin who had evaded an entire Demacian battalion. When they brought him to justice, they finally earned the admiration and respect of their nation. The two now serve as living, fighting icons of Demacian strength and perseverance. Together, Quinn and Valor will stand against any threat to their beloved home.

Most soldiers only rely on their weapons. Few truly rely on each other.

Quinn"
Volty, one of Riot's Game Designers, also dropped off some tips and areas he is looking to play test specifically.
"I am eagerly awaiting a huge tide of feedback about all aspects of her kit, animations, visual effects, sounds, and VO, based on your playtest experiences. I'm also anticipating bug reports, of course. But please here allow me to focus your attention on a couple of areas where feedback will be particularly valuable, both playing as Quinn and Valor and against them:

1. Harrier target selection and frequency
Harrier is something I'm very interested to see your responses to. Please be as complete as possible when describing situations where Harrier was either satisfying or dissapointing. When is Harrier creating the best gameplay? When does it fall short of expectations? Please describe how it feels to play against Harrier--I expect that this mechanic does create meaningful play and counterplay for both parties in a lot of (not all) situations..
2. Burst potential during Tag Team
We are carefully watching burst damage dealt by Valor during Tag Team, usually from casting E,attack,Q,Skystrike. We think this is probably close to balanced at present but it's definitely something I'm keeping an eye on.
3. Chasing sustained dps as Quinn (not as Valor)
Quinn is good at being offensive and exploiting tactical openings, either created by Harrier or emergent from normal laning play. What I want a check on is whether her sustained autoattack damage in these scenarios feels unfair (playing as or against.) Potential causes are high base MS and the Attack Speed steroid on W. Note that as Valor, I WANT you to feel very powerful chasing fleeing targets.
4. Did you successfully use Vault to escape over a wall?
My hat off to you then. Well done.
Lastly, here are the playing as tips:
  • Valor will prefer to mark enemies you attack. He also will mark minions to help you last hit.
  • Vault is powerful but must be used with caution, as enemies can attack Quinn when she strikes them. Vault can sometimes be used to cross terrain if your back is to a wall.
  • Use Tag Team for traveling very long distances quickly, for fleeing from enemies, or for chasing wounded targets.
I really emphasize that last point--Tag Team isn't a "push to win" button. It's got huge potential when used smartly, and my advice is to make sure that you're getting one of three benefits from each cast, at least:
Long-distance strategic movement
Chasing fleeing targets and finishing them off
Fleeing from pressure and reapproaching a fight from a different angle
So does this work for you? I'd love to hear your success (or failure) stories.

-Volty"
Smart Ping Sounds and Keybinds
Smart Ping, the new ping radial menu featuring several new, specific pings, now has unique sounds for each of the different types of pings!
You can also now set keybinds for each of the four radial pings. Navigate to the "Key Bindings" menu to do so.



Balance Changes
Trying something a bit different this time. I'm seperating the changes into two different categories- New Changes and Changes to Previous Changes. New Changes will be changes new relative between Live and the PBE. Changes to Changes will be further tweaks to changes we've seen in a previous PBE update from this cycle. For example, the nerf to Vi's R damage was nerfed in the last PBE patch but that change was reverted so it goes under Changes to Previous Changes

New Changes ( Relative to live servers ):
Amumu
  • Curse of the Sad Mummy ( R ) range decreased to 550 from 600.
Master Yi
  • Alpha Strike ( Q ) now has a .5 bonus AD Ratio.
Taric
  • Shatter ( W ) now grants 10% of Taric's Armor to allies instead of flat 10/15/20/25/30
  • Shatter ( W ) now also deals damage equal to .3 of Taric's armor. ( Note: Still has an AP ratio guys, calm down . )

Vi
  • Base damage reduced to 55.5 from 58.5.
Zed
  • Razor Shuriken ( Q ) damage increased to 75/115/155/195/235 from 75/110/145/180/215.
  • Shadow Slash ( E ) damage reduced to 60/90/120/150/180 from 60/95/130/165/200.
Items:
Bilgewater Cutlass
  • Total price reduced to 1800 from 1925
Blade of the Ruined King
  • Total cost now 2850 from 2900.
  • Now builds out of Bilgewater Cutlass + Two Daggers.
  • Attack damage lowered to 40 from 45.
  • Now Grants 30% Attack Speed.
  • Active now deals 150 + 10% of target's max HP instead of 150 + 50% of your AD.

Hextech Gunblade
  • Total price reduced to 3275 from 3400
Changes to Previous Changes ( Relative to the changes we saw in the last PBE patch ):
Amumu
  • Curse of the Sad Mummy ( R ) damage reverted to 150/250/350 from 150/225/300
Vi
  • Assault and Battery ( R ) damage reverted to 200/325/450 from 200/300/400.
Xin Zhao
  • Crescent Sweep ( R ) damage reduced to 75/175/275 from 100/200/300.
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Artwork/design wise, she looks great.
Gameplay wise...meh, her kit looks incredibly dull.

Quinn:
Q: simple skill shot that hits first target
W: reveals area around her, also has the most generic steroid passive ever.
E: gap closer with a little bit extra, it's kinda cool I guess.
R: pretty much transformation ulti.

Valor:
Q: skarner q (the same as Quinn's Q except without the skill shot+0 distance)
W: generic attack speed steroid active
E: extremely generic gap closer (the same as Quinn's E except without the backflip)

second cast R: AoE damage that requires you to be in the middle of the team as you switch back into ranged mode.

I don't know how they went from great champions with incredibly fun and interesting kits like Thresh, Vi, Zed etc to...this.
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I don't... holy shit, not this again.

If you reduce every skill down to itself, NO SHIT IT WON'T BE UNIQUE.

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You can make these shitty comparisons of every skill to another champion all you want, YOU'RE PROVING NOTHING. You don't prove the champion is bland, you don't prove the champion is strong or bad, you just prove their skills are skills.

LET ME TELL YOU HOW TO ****ING ANALYZE A CHAMPION.
YOU LOOK AT THEM AS A WHOLE CHAMPION.
I KNOW, THIS CONCEPT IS REAL ****ING DIFFICULT.

You aren't even considering the whole ****ing kit and just looking at skills saying, "lol this is like this, how boring."
Well no ****ing shit. If we were to do that to every ****ing champion, they'd all be ****ing boring. Riven would be ****ing boring. Shyvana would be ****ing boring. Lee Sin would be ****ing boring. Syndra would be ****ing boring. Skarner would be ****ing boring.

Did you ever consider her passive and how her Q and E apply her passive and what kind of impact that would make on her as a labeled AD carry?
Or the fact that because of the way E works, how actually unique it is on HER AS AN AD CARRY that it is a TARGETED GAPCLOSER?
Or even the fact that her ultimate is an entirely unique in the AD carry sense that it transforms her from a standard ranged AD carry to a MELEE AD CARRY? Or even what the implications are that the second part of her ultimate is a self-centered execution ala Riven's Wind Slash?

I don't even ****ing like this champion, but I'm getting real ****ing sick of seeing your posts often just being complaints about a new champion having certain skills.
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You aren't even considering the whole ****ing kit and just looking at skills saying, "lol this is like this, how boring."
Well no ****ing shit. If we were to do that to every ****ing champion, they'd all be ****ing boring. Riven would be ****ing boring. Shyvana would be ****ing boring. Lee Sin would be ****ing boring. Syndra would be ****ing boring. Skarner would be ****ing boring.
Name me a champ that plays like Riven
Name me a champ that plays like Shyvana
Name me a champ that plays like Lee Sin
Holy crap why is Syndra even in that list.
Name me a champ that plays like Skarner

Let me dumb things down for you. She's Caitlyn minus the fun/strategic parts about her, she's Vayne minus the fun/strategic parts about her, they tried to make a Nidalee that is very close to 100% auto attacks.

I'm sorry but when you've played as long and as much as me, you can SEE when a champ has a bland kit, I can understand if this girl was released at the same time as maybe Xin when Riot could only make very basic skill sets, but not after amazing releases like Thresh, Vi, Zed and whoever was before. Riot tried NEW things with those champs, tell me what's new about this champ exactly?

My point still stands that Zyra's kit outside of her seeds is a hella generic design.
Nami's kit is also dull.

tl;dr read the red part
i.e. Riot didn't try anything new with Quinn.

tl;dr of your post: seems you haven't played Jayce or Nidalee (they're not AD carries but that's only because of their stats). My posts often being complaints about champs having certain skills? Having to hear me complain about 1 champ (Zyra) many months back, and now Quinn I guess I reeeeeallly do complain often. hint hint, sarcasm.
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You missed my point. You're calling out a champion as bland by their skills alone as opposed to their overall kit. I can bullshit like that too.

Riven's Broken Wings? Lol, that's just a combo version of Nidalee's Cougar Pounce.
Ki Burst? More like Lee Sin's Tempest with stun.
Valor? Rofl, every skillshot dash ever.
Generic on-hit ability for passive? What a ****ing awful champion.

Shyvana? Generic on-hit ability: Twin Bite. Check.
Mundo's Burning Agony with movement speed steroid? Riot, get more creative.
Basic skillshot, okay. Gives a new on-hit ability on hit, cool I guess.
Lol, transformation ult. This champion is ****ing boring, only one part of her kit is new.
Her passive isn't even a passive.

Lee Sin? Lol, skillshot into gapcloser, whatever.
Target dash ability that only goes to allies and gives a shield. Okay.
Self-centered AOE, yeah whatever.
Single-target nuke ultimate that knocks back, what a melee Tristana.

Hahaha, Syndra, this champion is the most ****ing boring champion ever.
Her Dark Sphere is just a simple AOE, whoopdeedoo.
Her Force of Will grabs spheres and minions, I guess that's unique.
Her Scatter the Weak is just a conal AOE.
Unleashed Power. Generic. Nuke. Damn.
Her passive is about as good as Shyvana. Daaaaaaaaamn.

Skarner is pretty stupid.
His Crystal Slash is cool. I guess.
Crystalline Exoskeleton, lol. Shield and steroid, totally new mechanic.
Fracture? Linear skillshot with on-hit ability? Wow this sounds like Shyvana.
Impale is cool but you might as well get Blitzcrank. Awful champion. Also stupid passive, wanna-be Ryze.

The ONLY part of Quinn I find similar to Caitlyn is their reliance on auto-attacks.
The ONLY part of Quinn I find similar to Vayne is their crossbows and reliance on auto-attacks.
I don't remember Nidalee having a marker passive or a area-reveal or an execution AOE. I also don't remember her having a target gapcloser or an on-hit skillshot ability.

lol, did you really say that.
It doesn't take a ****ing idiot to understand how to differentiate between champions. And you don't have to be a ****ing Einstein to consider the fact that unique-ness of champions only goes so far before every idea has been drained.
In fact, it's really ****ing bullshit that you even pull the argument that Riot should keep releasing "amazing" champions after their current releases. If anything, their releases should be getting worse and worse, but they're not.

What new things did Riot try with Thresh?
He's just Blitzcrank. With Veigar's stun as his ultimate. And a farmer's game passive.

Vi? Lol, they stuck Varus's Piercing Arrow on a melee champion for a dash, gave her Vayne's Silver Bolt, and an ammo system on-hit ability. Her ultimate is just Nautilus's ultimate as herself.

Zed? On-hit ability passive. Skillshot. Wow, his Living Shadow gives him free AD, seriously? Riven has an ultimate for that which is now on a huge cooldown. Shadow is unique, I guess. His Shadow Slash is just a self-centered AOE damage. His ultimate is kind of new.

You shouldn't even give a shit about new things, what should be taken into consideration is how they work with each other. The fact that you haven't even come to this kind of conclusion yet after having "played as long and as much as [you]" is ****ing shameful.
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He's just Blitzcrank. With Veigar's stun as his ultimate. And a farmer's game passive.

Vi? Lol, they stuck Varus's Piercing Arrow on a melee champion for a dash, gave her Vayne's Silver Bolt, and an ammo system on-hit ability. Her ultimate is just Nautilus's ultimate as herself.

Zed? On-hit ability passive. Skillshot. Wow, his Living Shadow gives him free AD, seriously? Riven has an ultimate for that which is now on a huge cooldown. Shadow is unique, I guess. His Shadow Slash is just a self-centered AOE damage. His ultimate is kind of new.

You shouldn't even give a shit about new things, what should be taken into consideration is how they work with each other. The fact that you haven't even come to this kind of conclusion yet after having "played as long and as much as [you]" is ****ing shameful.
Thresh: what champion can pull ALLY champions? What champion has a "farmer passive" again?

Vi: and how many champs have a charging skill like Varus? Let's count, there's Varus and...oh Varus, and they're both quite different besides the charging ANYWAY. How many champs have something like Vayne's Silver bolts? There's Vayne and...oh, Vayne, did you know it also gives an attack speed steroid on 3 hit?. How many champs have something like her E? NONE.

Zed: Wow I don't even need to talk about Zed.
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Shadow is unique, I guess. His ultimate is kind of new.
Syndra: Q: generic aoe skill shot yes, but did you know it does something after that? It leaves a sphere for your other 3 skills to use.
E: generic knockback, but ALSO works with her Q.
R: targeted skill that is calculated based on the amount of spheres out currently, also taking those spheres and throwing them at the target AND leaving them all on the ground + 3.
Obviously you haven't played Syndra rofl.

You wonder why I compare her to Vayne? I did so because of what YOU said about her reliance on applying her passive, that's EXACTLY what Vayne and her silver bolts and her entire skill set is all about.

Great job proving my point. You really don't know.

I don't know, maybe she might be fun to play and there can be great plays with her, but the concept of her skillset is ****ing bland.

Really, I don't mind discussions or arguments but when you go about it by acting like a kid swearing, insulting and contradicting yourself at every turn I can't take you seriously so I'm just going to stop here. Maybe if you want to disagree with me again, do it when you're not angry so you can see what is wrong with your posts.
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NOW you're actually analyzing a champion. Good job. Not that ****ing bullshit that you pull off just looking at her ****ing skills.
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Dot actually has a valid point. If you're just looking at the barebones concept of what the skills are and what they function, you're going to run into the fact that the vast majority of champions have the same concepts (yes, a few are unique, but the vast majority have the same designs).

You have to look at how the skills interact with each other. Zyra's skills may not be much of a new concept at all, but it's how they all interact with each other, which is what can make her unique.
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