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>Plenty games I've played actually give compensation when things go wrong. Riot is not this beacon of light.

>Player service? I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I'm going to go off of "listens to their playerbase." They hold an ear up to what the player-base is saying, but at the same time, they don't execute everything.

>Doesn't sell money for power? This game isn't the type of game where you can buy a win anyways. However, since you can buy XP (lolzzzz) and IP boosts, the argument that you can in fact buy some power can be made.

Riot isn't an awful company, yes. But by no means are they the greatest company in the world. Not at all.
>by player service i mean, their policy, we are not their "customers", we want to get back some IP we regret because we bought i champ we dont like, they give us back the IP, even the RP even though they aren't supposed to do that

>selling money for power will be selling RUNES for RP. which btw a "free user" can get to the top ranking by using 2 rune pages and 4 champs (teddyRo), there is no content u can't unlock (that benefits you) which cant be bought by in game currency. all they sell are skins (which do about nothing, besides saying, hey i like the way he/she/it looks on the champ)

>riot does charity, red cross (akali) and the guy who had cancer (jax and jaximus skin)

>they listen to the community and im pretty sure they act according to how fast they can get their shit up, it isn't easy to program something in 2-3 day with that complexity like spectator mode or a new map(which is totally unnecessary IMO)

sure riot isnt a beacon of light, it's a business and they need to keep it running.


as i said before, please tell me a better game company, i'd definitely try their games
 
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>by player service i mean, their policy, we are not their "customers", we want to get back some IP we regret because we bought i champ we dont like, they give us back the IP, even the RP even though they aren't supposed to do that

>selling money for power will be selling RUNES for RP. which btw a "free user" can get to the top ranking by using 2 rune pages and 4 champs (teddyRo), there is no content u can't unlock (that benefits you) which cant be bought by in game currency. all they sell are skins (which do about nothing, besides saying, hey i like the way he/she/it looks on the champ)

>riot does charity, red cross (akali) and the guy who had cancer (jax and jaximus skin)

>they listen to the community and im pretty sure they act according to how fast they can get their shit up, it isn't easy to program something in 2-3 day with that complexity like spectator mode or a new map(which is totally unnecessary IMO)

sure riot isnt a beacon of light, it's a business and they need to keep it running.


as i said before, please tell me a better game company, i'd definitely try their games
>RP refunds happen once, and largely so you may be tempted to buy more. Most companies will also give out refunds if you're on top of it when you buy the item. Riot won't refund you for an IP-purchased champ that you bought a year ago, they'll refund you within like a week I think it was.

>Not everyone is teddyRo, good example there! And as I said before, LoL would be so lol if you could buy power. It's a game of "skill" and "practice."

>Most gaming companies did a small PR stint with a whole "buy x stuff, we donate x profits to charity" with the Japan Earthquake thingo. And I'm sure if any other company had "granted a wish" then they would make a nice PR run with it.

>I don't expect things to be flawless in 2-3 days other than server instability. However, Riot is also the worst at "deadlines." Stealth Revamp anyone?

Riot is good in the sense that it is visibly human, take that away and it's just a crappy company that doesn't know how their game works.
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Compensation happens when you lose something (no, lost games don't exactly count).

i.e. if you were to lose hours of playtime on this game, maybe lose a few champions you bought because of a rollback, then Riot should compensate you somehow, even if it's something small like an IP boost.

You don't lose anything from server downtime.
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Riot is good in the sense that it is visibly human, take that away and it's just a crappy company that doesn't know how their game works.
I still don't see any other company being nearly as decent as Riot. Selling power could easily be something as illusory as "You could get this item by cash, or spend 90% of your earned in-game gold on the chance of getting this item." Runes could very well be on that system. Would it be smart or healthy for a game like this? No. Would certain companies do it if they had the chance? You're lying to yourself if you said no.
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I still don't see any other company being nearly as decent as Riot. Selling power could easily be something as illusory as "You could get this item by cash, or spend 90% of your earned in-game gold on the chance of getting this item." Runes could very well be on that system. Would it be smart or healthy for a game like this? No. Would certain companies do it if they had the chance? You're lying to yourself if you said no.
Of course there are other companies that would just run with the chance to sell power. However, I do not deny that Riot is a good company. I was merely laughing at the fact that whatever his name is said that Riot was "by far the best company EVER," because they're not. They can and do things a little differently because of the nature of their game, but that in no way makes them the best company ever (as evidence by this whole patch mess).
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Of course there are other companies that would just run with the chance to sell power. However, I do not deny that Riot is a good company. I was merely laughing at the fact that whatever his name is said that Riot was "by far the best company EVER," because they're not. They can and do things a little differently because of the nature of their game, but that in no way makes them the best company ever (as evidence by this whole patch mess).
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Riot is good in the sense that it is visibly human, take that away and it's just a crappy company that doesn't know how their game works.
If Riot being 'visibly human' is the only thing that makes them 'good,' then doesn't that totally denounce their technical expertise? I mean sure, I agree that Riot isn't 'the best EVER;' the patch itself is evident of that. But let's not forget the human aspect of Riot, either. Shit happens. And shit happened in this patch, and they're trying their best to fix and decode it back to normal ON TOP OF distributing compensation for those affected by the slip-up. If a mishap like this instantly brands them 'crappy' and 'not knowing how their game works' - especially after they've had plenty of successful patches before - then I vehemently despise this way of thinking.

This goes back to a similar argument that I saw in the LoL section before: If Riot is so 'crappy' and 'doesn't know how their game works,' then why don't the complainers and bashers get up and do something about it? If it answer is along the lines of 'I have no knowledge/schooling/expertise on such things and don't plan on gaining any,' then this argument is as good as finished.
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Of course there are other companies that would just run with the chance to sell power. However, I do not deny that Riot is a good company. I was merely laughing at the fact that whatever his name is said that Riot was "by far the best company EVER," because they're not. They can and do things a little differently because of the nature of their game, but that in no way makes them the best company ever (as evidence by this whole patch mess).
"best GAME company ever" so please refer me a better company, saying it's the best GAME company means the best company in the GAME COMPANY classification doesn't mean the overall (の中で) so please, if u know a better GAME COMPANY, enlighten me with it

it doesn't mean riot are some sort of mother Theresa shit, it just means they're the best overall or the rest are shit
 
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"best GAME company ever" so please refer me a better company, saying it's the best GAME company means the best company in the GAME COMPANY classification doesn't mean the overall (の中で) so please, if u know a better GAME COMPANY, enlighten me with it

it doesn't mean riot are some sort of mother Theresa shit, it just means they're the best overall or the rest are shit
My apologies for leaving out that one word, it still doesn't change the fact that they are not the best "game company EVER."

You see, the best game company ever would not have goofed as hard (two or three tries and the patch still derped?) as Riot did for this patch. Personally, if we're talking about just game companies, I prefer Square Enix over Riot just because SE makes a lot of games I enjoy, while Riot only makes one game I marginally enjoy.

And I think that's the end of the discussion. The quality of a company is subjective and it is my opinion that Riot, while a (somewhat) competent and decent company is not the "best game company ever."
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