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Sandrie 01-01-2011 12:13 PM

Latale General Wiki Thread
 
I think this turned into a general latale wiki thread so yeah. If you want to help,have questions, or have info needed on the wiki, post here. If it's urgent (like someone vandalizing), it's better to PM me orSidero.
Or I guess you can go on irc, either #alumina or #mymmogames @ rizon.

Current Wiki Projects going on
(in no particular order)
Skills Project (see the rest of this thread)
Monster Project ( /forum/latale-wiki/8...-monsters.html)
Cleanup Project ( /forum/latale-wiki/8...i-cleanup.html )

List of gifs (in progress because I'm lazybusy.
/forum/latale-genera...ml#post1447580



The original post is under the tildes (~).
"Wannabe latale wiki link" - Main Page - /gg FTW! La Tale Wiki
Other wikis -http://ggftw.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

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Hi guys, I finally hammered out more of the kinks in my video->gif process so it's not horribly horribly slow. Seph did mention that he would like to see the weapon skill gifs on the wiki (and I'm sure everyone would, it would help people pick out what skills they want).

As of right now, I really think the only gifs we have are a few dagger, water skills/bard, and the wind I skills I did long ago.

So, if you can make a gif that's great, post it here or upload to the wiki, if not I will be randomly running about to get videos of skills and hopefully getting them to a decent gif.

Stuff to keep in mind:
1.If there's a skill callout thing like "wind walk" make sure to put that in.
2.Capture the whole entire skill effect.
3.Do it away from other people/monsters.
4.Do it in the Elfa tunnel if possible.
5.NO names. it's in the options.
6.Take everything off. Equip, fashion, everything. (inb4 nekkid jokes)
Or I guess I could just record it if you don't have fraps or whatnot (not that I'm using fraps).


Here's an example of how it should look:
http://oi51.tinypic.com/2ajpcwk.jpg

I think the quality is kind of meh but I'll see if I can fix that(?).

There's a lot of other things (*cough*3rd job stuff) we really should be working on but I think this is a good start.

List of Finished gifs:
Warrior/WL both trees except the top II skills(?)

Wizard/Bard Bubble Bubble I/Water II skill (except Hailstone) (I think this is on the wiki already?)
Bard Evil Sound/Sound of Heart/Spirit/All heals/Stop the action
Wizard Pvp airskill
Wizard/Sorcerer ALL earth skills/5th tier (earth), most wind/most water
Knight/Templar Mace Multihit Tree
Knight/Guardian Boom tree/Kick tree/5th Tier

Explorer/TH AR Tree/5th skill (bow)/Misc
Explorer/TH xbow Needle Shower Tree/Stream Shot Tree/5th skill (xbow)
backdash

Engi/Meister Misc/tier I skills/push turret
Did not list:
Anything 3rd job, since we don't even have skill info right now

Sandrie 01-01-2011 12:14 PM

Oh yeah I guess I should do a crash course in gifs (that one guide now lacks pictures) :

Things you will need:
  1. Video capture program like fraps
  2. virtualdub

1.Record video.

2. Open the video in virtualdub

3.Go to Video>Filters

http://asset.100.ggftw.net/gallery/i...96/1_vdub1.png

4.From there, click the Add button and choose the brightness/contrast filter (or null transform) :

http://asset.100.ggftw.net/gallery/i...96/1_vdub2.png

5.You'll see a menu that will let you change the brightness/contrast but don't mess with that, just click okay.

http://asset.100.ggftw.net/gallery/i...96/1_vdub3.png

6.The point of doing that is now the Cropping button is now activated, click on that and you'll come to a menu that will let you crop your video. I suggest moving a few frames at at time so your whole skill will be in the gif.

http://asset.100.ggftw.net/gallery/i...96/1_vdub4.png

7. Once you are done with it, go to File>Export>Animated Gif

http://asset.100.ggftw.net/gallery/i...96/1_vdub5.png

8.Make sure to click the infinite loop button, click okay and boom! there is your skill gif.

http://asset.100.ggftw.net/gallery/i...96/1_vdub6.png

(The finished work is on the first post)

Since pirating is bad, here are FREE video capture programs I know of:
Taksi -http://taksi.sourceforge.net/ (last time I checked, it doesn't support audio)
CamStudio -http://camstudio.org/
Virtualdub is free and can be downloaded at Welcome to virtualdub.org! - virtualdub.org

xdgr 01-01-2011 12:23 PM

I think recording lt stuff is becoming a fad these days ..

I'll try to get uhh, 1st job spear spin skills and mace temp multi hit tree skills

Sandrie 01-01-2011 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdgr (Post 1436995)
I think recording lt stuff is becoming a fad these days ..

I'll try to get uhh, 1st job spear spin skills and mace temp multi hit tree skills

is it really? I wouldn't know orz, but I guess that's a plus for me, people will be more willing to help out. (right...?)

I'll be doing the first 2 skills for wind II skills, and water II skills if that hasn't been done yet.

BoredomKillz 01-01-2011 01:07 PM

only skimmed over the gif post thing, but if i can get it to work i can prolly add in a good portion of the skills when i have time /o/
hers hoping im not too stupid to understand ;-;
/goes off to afk first

SOC 01-01-2011 01:07 PM

Instead of using "contrast" for the cropping in Virtual Dub, use "null transform." It's easier and actually built for just that, haha.

Also, I don't know why, but my gifs for La Tale almost always come out extremely laggy, so I can't make any gifs for LT. They also come out 1-2 MB, and I can't compress them, sooooo yeah.

xdgr 01-01-2011 01:58 PM

well, with pvp fanatics I meant

record full screen latale (not windowed) with 30 fps, full size. usually people record in half size but since this gif needs every bit of quality, you should just do full size

I'm trying out xfire's recorder and it's quite decent, can't set your own bitrate for better quality though. you also have to sign up an account and blahblah blah ..

Sandrie 01-01-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOC (Post 1437014)
Instead of using "contrast" for the cropping in Virtual Dub, use "null transform." It's easier and actually built for just that, haha.

Also, I don't know why, but my gifs for La Tale almost always come out extremely laggy, so I can't make any gifs for LT. They also come out 1-2 MB, and I can't compress them, sooooo yeah.

I knew that. /shot I guess it's just contrast is further up on the thing so I get lazy.

Sephiroth 01-01-2011 02:35 PM

I think, if we're going to put in GIFs of Skills, it'd be wise to take off all fashion and equips so that players can focus more on the skills rather than the character using them. As well as disabling names. It'd make everything in the wiki much more uniform and professional looking.

Edit; I also find taking the GIFs in the Elfa Tunnels to be a lot better, since people can then focus on the colours and such of the skills, which is much easier when captured on a Black Background.


I'll work on whatever TH/RW skills I can later.
As well as Duelist/Gunslinger.

xdgr 01-01-2011 02:39 PM

oops, did mace already

mace multihit tree skills

Sandrie 01-01-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 1437046)
I think, if we're going to put in GIFs of Skills, it'd be wise to take off all fashion and equips so that players can focus more on the skills rather than the character using them. As well as disabling names. It'd make everything in the wiki much more uniform and professional looking.

Edit; I also find taking the GIFs in the Elfa Tunnels to be a lot better, since people can then focus on the colours and such of the skills, which is much easier when captured on a Black Background.


I'll work on whatever TH/RW skills I can later.
As well as Duelist/Gunslinger.

I don't see a huge problem about fashion, maybe it's because I'm simply to the point where I'll take ANYTHING decent for the wiki. Personally I don't have anything taken away just because I know that's hira's bard or my old wiz. But all of them already uploaded have fashion and the cache will take literally weeks to pick it up. We do need to take off names though.

tl;dr: if we decide to go back and take off fashion/equips blahblah and go record in efla tunnel it will make it a LOT harder, but not impossible.

BoredomKillz 01-01-2011 04:23 PM

so does it matter if im in full screen or windows mode? just asking since im usually in windows /o/

and if you want i can go fashionless in elfa tunnel, but if it doesnt really matter id prefer to be clothed x]

xdgr 01-01-2011 04:40 PM

don't think there's much of a difference, but windowed lt is slower for some people so that's just your choice.. it just depends on what you use to record

http://eternaltale.net/xdgr/templar%.../crazyhit2.gif

I like staring at this more than ever ..

SOC 01-01-2011 04:41 PM

Only go in full screen if your recording is laggy. Otherwise, windowed is just fine 'cause you're only making a gif of a little part of your character.

Making gifs takes a lot more power than recording though. XD

Rhonder 01-02-2011 09:23 PM

If they haven't already been done, I can do the throwing dagger skills for 1st job (and the first for 2nd job) and any undone water skills (will be at 125 shortly), as well as evil sound/heals/the few buffs I have, if needed :3 If you need me quickly mail me in game (IGN: Rhonder). Sounds like a fun project :D

SOC 01-03-2011 12:40 AM

Don't worry if it's been done yet or not, just go ahead and do all of your skills pretty please~

itsScott 01-03-2011 02:12 AM

This sounds fun and I'll be gladly to help!

I'm an Earth Elemental Master with all skills~
IGN: ScottyBoy

Send me a mail or pm me since I do not want to record myself. XD

Kukiko 01-03-2011 01:07 PM

http://i51.tinypic.com/e85udt.jpg

Just wondering if this is good, lol.

I recorded clips of all my water skills and guitar skills but I've only edited that one so far (because I'm lazy).

LilPhenyl 01-03-2011 01:10 PM

I'll record the Earth skills up to the 5th tier since I'm like, the only Earth Sorcerer and all. /o/

Not sure if the skills would be gif friendly, though... They're huge.

Sandrie 01-03-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kukiko (Post 1438210)

Just wondering if this is good, lol.

I recorded clips of all my water skills and guitar skills but I've only edited that one so far (because I'm lazy).

That's fine. Also if you guys don't want to strip I guess wearing something like belos armor would be fine, no flashy fashion there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilPhenyl (Post 1438211)
I'll record the Earth skills up to the 5th tier since I'm like, the only Earth Sorcerer and all. /o/

Not sure if the skills would be gif friendly, though... They're huge.

Thanks in advance. And yeah, I figure the ones that are HUGE might not be such a good idea, but they are on another page so at least it won't kill people with slow interwebs. If it's really just too big don't worry about it.


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