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And since you don't have anything for meister in wiki, I just did this /o/.



MG Control [Novice]
Enable the use of 1st level strong attacks. Weak, Weak, Strong.
Req. level: 1; Req. SPts.: 2; Max level: 1; Ely: n/a

MG Control [Skilled]
Enable the use of 2nd level strong attacks. Weak, Weak, Weak, Strong.
Req. level: 30; Req. SPts.: 2; Max level: 1; Ely: 27,000
Prerequisite: MG Control [Skilled] 1/1

MG Control [Expert]
Enable the use of 3rd level strong attacks. Weak, Weak, Weak, Weak, Strong.
Rope speed will also increase.
Req. level: 60; Req. SPts.: 3; Max level: 1; Ely: 126,000
Prerequisite: MG Control [Expert] 1/1

MG Mastery [Novice]
Increase MG's accuracy by 1% per level.
Req. level: 1; Req. SPts.: 1; Max level: 5; Ely: n/a

MG Mastery [Skilled]
Increases MG's Min. and Max. Dmg. by 1% per level.
Req. level: 15-24; Req. SPts.: 1; Max level: 10; Ely: 7,500
Prerequisite: MG Mastery [Novice] 5/5

MG Mastery [Expert]
Increases MG's accuracy and Min. Dmg. by 1% per level.
Req. level: 30-39; Req. SPts.: 1; Max level: 10; Ely: 27,000
Prerequisite: MG Mastery [Skilled] 10/10

Ion Cannon
Req. level: 125(+5/skill lv); Req. SPts.: 2; Max level: 10; Ely: -
Prerequisite: MG Mastery [Expert] 10/10
Cooldown: n/a; SP Consumption: n/a; Balance Factor: -
# of targets: 5; # of attacks: 4

Ash Cannon
Req. level: 80/85/90; Req. SPts.: 2; Max level: 3; Ely: n/a
Prerequisite: MG Mastery [Novice] 1/5
Cooldown: 1 minute; SP Consumption: 110; Balance Factor: 2.5
# of targets: 3; # of attacks: 4

Mistertein
Req. level: 80/85/90; Req. SPts.: 2; Max level: 3; Ely: 351,500
Prerequisite: Ash Cannon 1/3
Cooldown: 1 minute; SP Consumption: 150; Balance Factor: 2.5
# of targets: 4; # of attacks: 2

Gaiborg
Req. level: 95/100/105; Req. SPts.: 3; Max level: 3; Ely: 451,000
Prerequisite: Mistertein 3/3
Cooldown: 1 minute; SP Consumption: 180; Balance Factor: 3
# of targets: 4; # of attacks: 3

Raikiri
Req. level: 110/115/120; Req. SPts.: 3; Max level: 3; Ely: 612,500
Prerequisite: Gaiborg 3/3
Cooldown: 1 minute; SP Consumption: 200; Balance Factor: 3
# of targets: 5; # of attacks: 4





/lazy to do rest orz; will do later
And someone should make the template thingy quickly so I can just fill from there. ;>
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i added in 2 of the skills with the new template, but wow so much more confusing than the last one xD i think i did it right so you should just be able to copy and paste it and replace the info

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wow guys I love you all Q_Q. I still haven't put up many gifs yet, I need to transfer stuff to the other skill template while I go too.

I'll work on the meister skills when I'm not braindead (it's 6am orz)

Here's the template for the skills chart though:

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===NAME===
{{Skills Chart
|Name=name (use official)
|Level=X/Y/Z
|Max=max level
|Point=points needed to get/level up
|Price=Ely to get skill
|SP=SP cost to use the skill
|Cool=cooldown
|Target=# of targets
|Amount=# of attack hits
|Duration=duration of buff/debuff skills
|Factor=balance factor 
|Type=Active or Passive
|Element=Fire/Water/Earth/Air/Neutral
|Pre=prerequisites(if there are more than one, separate them using <br>) 
|Desc=official description
|Notes=notes, do not add "|Notes=" if there are none
}}
Example (maybe I'm not so braindead after all)
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===Illusion Fire===
{{Skills Chart
|Name=Illusion Fire
|Level=40/45/50
|Max=3
|Point=1
|Price=52000
|SP=75
|Cool=9 Seconds
|Target=5
|Amount=1
|Duration=N/A
|Factor=2.1
|Type=Active
|Element=Fire
|Pre=Flame Burst lvl 3
|Desc=Wall of fire to burn your enemies. 
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I'll take care of the icons, I'm working on getting the best quality possible using jpeg (lossy).
 
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If you want some skills i have almost all the characters at second job 84-151 levels just that i don't know how to make the gifs myself, maybe if you'd stand next to me to make them?
 
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i added in 2 of the skills with the new template, but wow so much more confusing than the last one xD i think i did it right so you should just be able to copy and paste it and replace the info

heres the template btw
Template:Skills Chart - /gg FTW! La Tale Wiki
Pie, the reason it looks so confusing is because I didn't leave a blank template up yet (check my other post). The only changes I did were colors and the notes will hide if there is no "|Notes=".

edit: aaa also change any [blah] to (blah), otherwise some not so good things will happen (<nowiki> could fix that but bleh.)
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I'll log on at some point soon (I think, can't guarantee cause I'm busy today and tomorrow)

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In terms of skill organization, I kind of liked the way Trickster Wiki is set up and mimicked it on my wiki page to see if people agree. :x
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Sandrie, are we going to be using that skill table to be the new one? A lot of them still redirect to an old template saying "Please move to the Skill Template, this template is outdated."

Edit: For Class Descriptions, I realize half of them are copied from the site and the other half is just member written. I think that we should change all to match OGP's site.
If we agree on that, I can alter them all to be exact.
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In terms of skill organization, I kind of liked the way Trickster Wiki is set up and mimicked it on my wiki page to see if people agree. :x
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Sandrie, are we going to be using that skill table to be the new one? A lot of them still redirect to an old template saying "Please move to the Skill Template, this template is outdated."

Edit: For Class Descriptions, I realize half of them are copied from the site and the other half is just member written. I think that we should change all to match OGP's site.
If we agree on that, I can alter them all to be exact.

1)I do like the way the TO wiki does it, once we get all the skills (or someone tell me the exact names of everything) I can do that. Or someone else ;_


2)Yes, we aren't using the LT Skills Table template anymore (I purposely marked it so I would actually do something about it). That's the one that's going to be updated from now on. A general note, we aren't using anything that starts with "LT" anymore, the wikis are all separate instances and we don't need to use namespaces anymore.
Just a note, moving the template will mess stuff up, I'll (hopefully) fix it in due time. I need someone to match icons with skills at some point in time though.
3)Also, we need the official class descriptions, I know for 1st/2nd job for sure have them, I don't know where to find 3rd though.
 
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I'll log on at some point soon (I think, can't guarantee cause I'm busy today and tomorrow)
It's better if we pick a date and agree to log on it since i'm studying for exams atm.
 
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Yea. My wiki pages currently uses the LT_[skill name] because the namespace hasn't been removed completely.
All images have to be reuploaded with correct file names. Half of them were named funky and I'm guessing those who uploaded those images did it from translation.

I can actually create all tables to be like that along with the individual pages to link to that skill but I can't until all image's namespace have been removed.


Some of the first and second job descriptions are not the official descriptions. Some were member written by what they assumed would be accurate enough. I'll go check all the jobs and edit them.
As for 3rd job, OGP has not updated their pages to provide official descriptions for them.



Edit: Apparently some classes have a skill tree chart image. I think we should remove those unless someone wants to create multiple of those images to be similar...
Example would be this one. http://wiki.ggftw.com/latale/Warrior
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I'll take care of uploading them then, I don't like the quality of the current jpegs anyway (i'd use png but I should reserve that for large images).

Some of these skills I'm unsure of what they are though. Especially 3rd job skills, etc.
 
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We can focus on fixing 1st and 2nd job skill images, skill pages, etc. We'll just update 3rd job along the way as we collect more information from players uploading the .gifs.
Edit: Have to somehow find a way to obtain all accurate 1st and 2nd job skill names.
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Okay, I took all the skill icons off from the client files, currently separating them, finished icons will show up on my user page:User:Sandrie - /gg FTW! La Tale Wiki.

We also have to put skills on separate pages but we can do that while we are shuffling things around later.
 
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I can send you a list of all skill names (from in-game) that I can get later.
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Just saw that right now, I agree, unless someone else can copy the format or something similiar, it should be removed (also frees up png for use for something else). Anyone?
 
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Personally i like Hira's chart more than those that we have now.
 
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We can't freely play around with images in the wiki. The chart that someone created can be altered easily.
If you check my wiki page, you'll see that I put each row to show skills in their tree order. Individual skills (with no continuation) are just shoved in rows together.
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If you want some skills i have almost all the characters at second job 84-151 levels just that i don't know how to make the gifs myself, maybe if you'd stand next to me to make them?
oh okies, my bad xD the link tripped me out QQ
i can add in skills and stuff when i have more free time /o/

as for gifs i still have access to:
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first job knuckle
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strider

ill get working on those now /o/

EDIT: forgot i had a question lol for striders/bladers and engistars/meisters should we make gifs of their combo attacks? (the normal and hard attacks and stuff)
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We can't freely play around with images in the wiki. The chart that someone created can be altered easily.
If you check my wiki page, you'll see that I put each row to show skills in their tree order. Individual skills (with no continuation) are just shoved in rows together.
There is a way to that I think, but I'm not sure if I could pull it off. It basically we would have a base image (such as the skill thing from in-game) and we append the actual icons on top of it and make it a clickpic, but as of right now the truckstar way is much easier to do. It probably could be possible in the future though.

Here's an example of images on top of images (which direct to NPC pages, in this case).
Beach Town - Paradise - /gg FTW! Trickster Wiki


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oh okies, my bad xD the link tripped me out QQ
i can add in skills and stuff when i have more free time /o/

as for gifs i still have access to:
earth EM
wind sorc
sword dragoon
first job knuckle
dagger RW
minstrel

ill get working on those now /o/
Don't do earth EM. that for sure is done, we also have most of wind sorc (everything except last). Rest of these I need to check orz

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EDIT: forgot i had a question lol for striders/bladers and engistars/meisters should we make gifs of their combo attacks? (the normal and hard attacks and stuff)
Yes, combo attacks would be nice.


So many posts at once @_@

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Don't do earth EM. that for sure is done, we also have most of wind sorc (everything except last). Rest of these I need to check orz
you got it from phenyl right? i think shes still an earth sorc so should i do the 3rd job ones at least then?
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