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01-22-2009   #21 (permalink)
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which has the advantages against which?
One: We don't know.

Two: We can;t tell if it really matters IGN or if it's just a symbolic story-line thing.
 
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I can't really say if it will harm your characters if it is fire clan and his skills are water. On the other foreign versions I do not think it really matters that much. I do know the elemental skill s make a difference against monsters but that is regarding skills only. It might be that the clan's element attribute plays a role but I can't give a concrete answer about that right now x_x;

It is strange how they are based but are not really completely following the chinese elements. The traditional Chinese tradition has 5 elements being: Water, Fire, Wood, Earth and Metal. However you'll notice that there are 6 clans. The Holy Beast developers solved this by adding the element Gold into it. In Chinese tradition the Metal and Gold are the same element and it often depends on the region what they will call it. Metal is the more common one as far as I know.

As for weaknesses and strenghts I can only confirm what I know from the original elements which is:

* Wood > Fire
* Fire > Earth
* Earth > Metal
* Metal > Water
* Water> Wood

That should make a perfect circle. However the Chinese tradition is much more complicated than that. If you would follow it perfectly, you would have to add the following:

* Wood parts Earth;
* Earth absorbs Water;
* Water quenches Fire;
* Fire melts Metal;
* Metal chops Wood;
* Wood absorbs Water;
* Water rusts Metal;
* Metal breaks up Earth;
* Earth smothers fire;
* Fire burns Wood.

That still doesn't solve the riddle though since we do have metal in there but how should we take gold into consideration in all that? Elements can be so confusing sometimes x__x;

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i heard somewhere that tigers get more money from drops because of their gold element

dunno if it's true though
 
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Ty. I will add your name in the elements guide
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Wood > Fire ._.?!
You have the ">" backwards :P
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it is correct for now
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Wood > Fire ._.?!
You have the ">" backwards :P
I know it might seem that way, Sanichi but in the Chinese Tradition the saying goes 'Wood fuels Fire~' so as you can see the arrow is put correctly.

In the addition you can see that the saying 'Fire burns Wood~' is added. It is very hard to put the Chinese elements against each others since most elements have a love-hate affair going on X3
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I mean like Wood > Fire usually would mean wood beats fire.
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10 < 20 Correct
10 > 20 Incorrect
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I mean like Wood > Fire usually would mean wood beats fire.
Ex:
10 < 20 Correct
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I understand what you mean x_x; I already mentioned they sort of have a love-hate relationship. Without Wood there would be no Fire (hence Wood beats Fire) but on the other hand Fire burns the Wood (hence what you say Fire beats Wood). I'll try to post the circle diagram so perhaps you understand then.

Chinese Elements Cycle

As you can see in Chinese Tradition the cycle 'Fire burns Wood' is not a main component while 'Wood fuels Fire' is. If we look at the classical 4 elements it would simply be "Fire > Earth" but in Chinese Tradition the element Wood trumphs Earth and Fire.

I know it's really confusing and might not really make sense but if you are still confused try looking up more diagrams of the Chinese Elements and you will see that each and every one of them will show Fire overcome by Wood.

Either way I really hope if this is implemented into the game that they will give players a proper explanation of which element will be vulnerable to which. Else we might be having a hard time making out what to use to kill certain mobs x_x;
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Ah .
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it is vice versa. the elements are opposite since of the addition of gold.
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Wood is at the top of the list, therefore wood is the best.
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not exactly since each elements has its own weakness and advantages
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Wood is at the top of the list, therefore wood is the best.
If you look at the last sentence in the list you'll see that 'Water makes Wood rot' so as Vom53 said, there is no 'better' element :3
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It was a jokeeee
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Sarcasm or jokes are very hard to understand when you can't hear the intonation of the speaker ;3
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