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1. chillax
2. we gave you advice we are trying to help.
3. we kno pvp is diffrent from practice
4. if a person cant grab y not just not grab?
5. so far as wat ive seen we gave you all advice sooooo just go with the flow
6. most important of all things!!!

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1. chillax
2. we gave you advice we are trying to help.
3. we kno pvp is diffrent from practice
4. if a person cant grab y not just not grab?
5. so far as wat ive seen we gave you all advice sooooo just go with the flow
6. most important of all things!!!

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4. Because if I don't grab, the only other way I'm going to get medals of victory for 3rd job mission/4th job mission is to spam jump attacks in gorge of oath (Elesis) or just leech off of good PVP teammates (never, ever happens. Elesis and Lire)
 
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just w8 for the right timing to use skill instead of grabing or if u had a ice fairy that can freeze that would help alot in grabing since they cant move for a bit
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just w8 for the right timing to use skill instead of grabing or if u had a ice fairy that can freeze that would help alot in grabing since they cant move for a bit
running around doing nothing but charging MP will get me kicked out of pretty much every room.

Not to mention while I'm doing it I'll probably die all the time by people who can actually grab the moment they appear on my screen.

And even if I did pull off a skill, I'd only get grabbed the instant I started it.

Are you seeing a pattern here?

Grab this.

Grab That.

If you can't grab, you fail at PVP. There are no if ands or buts about it.
 
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Skill spam/camp.
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the GC community is pissing me off even more...

At first, it was bad, but people actually made dungeon rooms with reasonable "limits" from time to time.

Now everything in ellia is 35+ apparently. Partusay? 35+. Ellia(kamiki?) 35+. Hell Bridge? 35+ (KIND of understandable...Until you realize for 3rd job you NEED to go there, and you'll be BELOW 35+ for that)


Make my own rooms? Nobody joins then. Or on the rare occasions people DO join, they're all 36-45 in a room labeled 30+. How stupid can people get? When a room is labeled 30+, expect people to be around 30-34, not 37-45 >_>
 
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the GC community is pissing me off even more...

At first, it was bad, but people actually made dungeon rooms with reasonable "limits" from time to time.

Now everything in ellia is 35+ apparently. Partusay? 35+. Ellia(kamiki?) 35+. Hell Bridge? 35+ (KIND of understandable...Until you realize for 3rd job you NEED to go there, and you'll be BELOW 35+ for that)


Make my own rooms? Nobody joins then. Or on the rare occasions people DO join, they're all 36-45 in a room labeled 30+. How stupid can people get? When a room is labeled 30+, expect people to be around 30-34, not 37-45 >_>
This is what happens every time I make a room too.

Most of the ones that join leave in 2 seconds after seeing that nobody else is coming into the room, and then there's the ever too common level 40+ that comes in to say "noobs" and leave.

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This is what happens every time I make a room too.

Most of the ones that join leave in 2 seconds after seeing that nobody else is coming into the room, and then there's the ever too common level 40+ that comes in to say "noobs" and leave.

Fabulous, isn't it?
I love those.

Had a level 40 AR come into partusay to say that...Lol @ AR in dungeons
 
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Lol @ AR in dungeons

Tell that to the 90% of lires that seem to think dungeoning with AR is a good idea. It pisses me off when everything I try to kill falls to the ground.
 
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There's a lot of us here, who do both dungeons and PvPs. You can get away from all that stupid crap by playing with us instead. I've always done Partusay starting at around 27 or 28, and Ellia at 30. Just because they're all weak, worthless idiots who want to run weaker dungeons doesn't mean you ought to not be able to play.

Also, there are ways to play without grabs, particularly as Lire and Amy. Using Xbow and Muse. If you use your fast, ranged attack speed, you can quite literally pin your opponents down. While they're pinned, the other users in the room can grab and skill them much easier. Even if you can't grab, doing this would make it easier for your allies to kill. You wouldn't get the most kills in the room, most likely ever, but you'd be helpful to your team and appreciated.
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Xbow needs to grab to actually be good.
I don't want to spam dash attacks once I get someone in fatal, just to have a CHANCE of killing them.
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There's a lot of us here, who do both dungeons and PvPs. You can get away from all that stupid crap by playing with us instead. I've always done Partusay starting at around 27 or 28, and Ellia at 30. Just because they're all weak, worthless idiots who want to run weaker dungeons doesn't mean you ought to not be able to play.

Also, there are ways to play without grabs, particularly as Lire and Amy. Using Xbow and Muse. If you use your fast, ranged attack speed, you can quite literally pin your opponents down. While they're pinned, the other users in the room can grab and skill them much easier. Even if you can't grab, doing this would make it easier for your allies to kill. You wouldn't get the most kills in the room, most likely ever, but you'd be helpful to your team and appreciated.
thats what I've started to do in PVP.

that PVP room I mentioned a page or two ago? the teams were 2 people in the 40 range, one 20 range. The other team (mine) was like two in the 20 range (I was 29 at the time) one in the 40 range.

All I did with Xbow was spray bolts everywhere, and when an enemy came up to me I'd either arrow shower (thats the one where lire flips upside down in the air and shoots straight down, right?) spam them or dash spam them, then 1MP bar them. Didn't really kill anyone though.

I even got complimented by the host for being a major PITA :P

how can I find you guys in dungeons though? the only time I've ever seen a MyMMOGames room is in the Master class room for PVP, and that's just kowiz being AFK
 
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When people use xbow they usually finish with Fan Shot, not grabs.

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I fought endless hours with Kowiz using Crossbow in a sniper fight.

Some may not apply to other characters.
What I notice I usually do (yes, I don't think while I PvP)
-Rain down on your enemies, as opposed to walking to them. Think paratrooping and surprise them from the skies.

-While raining down, if you have them in a stunlock, you would usually grab them. However, since you can't, I suggest packing some MP and throwing in a Fan-Shot -> 2MP, or start shoving bolts into their face with stunlock.

-Due to latency, I suggest dashing away after finishing a combo, then jumping up and raining back down again.

-ENJOY the fact that combo finishers (dash attack, critical attack, double attack) have a farther range and go slightly higher and lower (two bolts) than average shots.

-ONLY use Harpy Bomb when you're feeling cocky or your target is a platform above you. The freeze frame won't stay long after the skill is cast, and knowing people, they'll run away after you shoot. With the arrows, you'll stunlock them into the harpy's drop. Just make sure to take into consideration of push-back (the bolts push about a player about a character's width away).

-Use Fan-Shot a lot. It's strangely strong in PvP.

-2MP is meant only if you're right in front of the person, or looking for invincibility frames (which I don't suggest).

Otherwise, go ArchRanger and snipe <:
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No more complaining about grabbing.

Now I'm complaining about PVP in general

WHY THE HELL DO THEY FORCE YOU TO WIN 50 DAMN TIMES FOR THE FREAKING 3RD JOB MISSION?!?!?!?!?!??!?!??!
 
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No more complaining about grabbing.

Now I'm complaining about PVP in general

WHY THE HELL DO THEY FORCE YOU TO WIN 50 DAMN TIMES FOR THE FREAKING 3RD JOB MISSION?!?!?!?!?!??!?!??!
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I thought we complained about this already. Ntreev is a money-hore.
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I thought we complained about this already. Ntreev is a money-hore.
I know ntreev is a money-hore, doesn't mean I won't complain about how stupid this is.
 
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Now we agree on something. (Something I often get yelled at for thinking)

Just because you need to make a profit doesn't mean I have to appreciate your methods for doing so.

In any case, When I used to do 1v1s against Alex for my 3rd jobs, it'd take ages, but in 3v3 games it takes significantly less time, cuz I don't like on a 4:1 ratio.
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