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Actually, from what I remembered, it's:

Everyone who "participated" will all get loot and exp, but those who had "contributed" more will get more exp and 'possibly' better loot.

So if say there was a large group of bandits attacking the village, you killed one and stopped, after the event end, you will get rewarded just like everybody, but not as much as them.
Ah, thanks for that. Still, it is a wonderful system.
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I don't really want the value of ingame currency to be based on cash shop items though...
You'll be using Karma as your main currency I believe, which you won't be able to trade or sell.

On top of that, Gold had rather limited uses from what I remember.
 
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Visual Guide to Currencies in Guild Wars 2

Pretty nice visual guide to the GW2 currencies.

One currency is missing though, which is Influence, the Guild currency.
You get influence by doing PvP, Dynamic Events and WvW while you're in a guild.

EDIT: Wait what the.. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Promoter ಠ__ಠ

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So essentially, you could create a solo guild and gain easy influence that way with enough coin?
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So essentially, you could create a solo guild and gain easy influence that way with enough coin?
Yeah, I suppose. You'd really be better off just being in a larger guild and cooperate to reap the benefits, however.



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The pre-purchase has started, better do it now if you want to enter all the Beta Weekend Events hosted every month starting April, as well as a 3 days' headstart access to official release~ =]

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Has anyone else prepurchased GW2?
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Proceed with caution.

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No need to panic that much? None of the item in the cash shop are really necessarily or "pay to win".

For examples:

Instant Repair Canister
It's one time use. Sure you can use it in a dungeon run or something, but you know you can also "leave dungeon, use a way-point to move to a location to fix equip, then use way-point back and get back into the dungeon where your teammates are still in".

Resurrection Orb
It's one time use. And god, look at that price...and it's for PvE content only.
Also when you used it you don't just instantly stand back up with full health, instead you will be brought to "downed state" and your health will start slowly but automatically refilling; if there were mobs around you and no teammate to help, chances are that you will just die again before you're "revived". This item is simply used to save time if you don't want to revive back to one of dungeon's save point and runs back to where you died.

Dye Box
There are hundreds of dyes waiting to be unlocked in the game. And these Dye Box just let you "unlock" them faster. You won't get into situation such as getting the same dye color you have obtained before, and there are likely ways in the game to get dyes by planting dye plant. (speculation)

Megaphone
I thought this was removed? Anyway...even if they would still appear in game, I wonder how many dare to use that to spam the channel with ArenaNet's strict policy; I can't wait to see something like Dhuum to come out and "ban" the said player xD

Exp Boost
Super expensive for a 50% boost "per kill" and for only 1 god damn hour. Do mind that the fastest way to level in GW2 isn't farming the mob, you do DE, some might involve killing, some might not. This item is mostly for those who have more money than time.

Karma Boost
Super expensive for a 20% boost and for only 1 god damn hour...just look for some DE videos out there and think about how many of them can you finish within a hour, then think about whether it's really worth it to spend that much money for 1 hour. This item is mostly for those who have more money than time.

Slot Bag
You can get more Slot Bag from vender NPC and by spending your karma earned from DE, it's been confirmed.

Character Slot
By default you would have at least 4-5 character slots...

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You have 5 character slots default, which is enough to make one of each race already.

Most of the other items are simply convenience or aesthetics, and I don't see how they would break the game in any way unless the loot bag can give endgame lowdrop rate equipment.
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Seems like pretty standard cash shop fare.
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Mystic Key is what worries me the most. It implies that certain game items will become inaccessible without spending additional money.
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Mystic Key is what worries me the most. It implies that certain game items will become inaccessible without spending additional money.
Apparently everything is tradeable in game you just have to work harder and longer to get it. Or you can use your wallet.
 
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I really like guildwars' interface and the ability to actually do more than 5% of a mob's hp with one arrow when I compare the gameplay to Tera's.
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No need to panic that much? None of the item in the cash shop are really necessarily or "pay to win".

For examples:

Instant Repair Canister
It's one time use. Sure you can use it in a dungeon run or something, but you know you can also "leave dungeon, use a way-point to move to a location to fix equip, then use way-point back and get back into the dungeon where your teammates are still in".

Resurrection Orb
It's one time use. And god, look at that price...and it's for PvE content only.
Also when you used it you don't just instantly stand back up with full health, instead you will be brought to "downed state" and your health will start slowly but automatically refilling; if there were mobs around you and no teammate to help, chances are that you will just die again before you're "revived". This item is simply used to save time if you don't want to revive back to one of dungeon's save point and runs back to where you died.

Dye Box
There are hundreds of dyes waiting to be unlocked in the game. And these Dye Box just let you "unlock" them faster. You won't get into situation such as getting the same dye color you have obtained before, and there are likely ways in the game to get dyes by planting dye plant. (speculation)

Megaphone
I thought this was removed? Anyway...even if they would still appear in game, I wonder how many dare to use that to spam the channel with ArenaNet's strict policy; I can't wait to see something like Dhuum to come out and "ban" the said player xD

Exp Boost
Super expensive for a 50% boost "per kill" and for only 1 god damn hour. Do mind that the fastest way to level in GW2 isn't farming the mob, you do DE, some might involve killing, some might not. This item is mostly for those who have more money than time.

Karma Boost
Super expensive for a 20% boost and for only 1 god damn hour...just look for some DE videos out there and think about how many of them can you finish within a hour, then think about whether it's really worth it to spend that much money for 1 hour. This item is mostly for those who have more money than time.

Slot Bag
You can get more Slot Bag from vender NPC and by spending your karma earned from DE, it's been confirmed.

Character Slot
By default you would have at least 4-5 character slots...
You avoided listing the ones that matter. I'm not going to bother explaining, since this action implies you know those items can be detrimental to the game.
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You avoided listing the ones that matter. I'm not going to bother explaining, since this action implies you know those items can be detrimental to the game.
I was a bit lazy not wanting to go over all of them...fine, so what are left?
Asuran Bank Portal, Perfect Salvage Kit, Loot Box, Magic Plant Food, Mystic Key, and Unlock Account Bank Tab?

Asuran Bank Portal
So instant access to bank, what's wrong with this? I don't really see how it can be harmful to the game...Also recently another soulbound non-cash shop item named Asuran Golem Butler was revealed, it has the same and more functions, except that it's one time use and only last for 5 mins before self-destruct.
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Perfect Salvage Kit
Not really sure about this item...but I can't really think of a reason to use it myself...
If what GW2's wiki said is right, then when I want to apply another kind of upgrade on my current item, I can just first do that upgrade on another same type of item (dagger -- dagger), then use transmutation stone, so I can select the appearance, basic stat, and the upgrade I want. Problem solved.

When two items are combined by way of transmutation, if both contain an upgrade, the player decides which upgrade to keep. -- GW2 wiki

Loot Box
Not even sure what type of things could be in there...are specific types of item are in there? Are all items in the game ranging the crappiest crap to godliest stuff are in there? We don't know, too soon to judge don't you think?

Magic Plant Food
Erm, let you instantly grow dye plant without waiting...isn't this for ppl who want to save their precious time? Judging from the item's description any player can still grow dye plants just fine. And even if some dude used load of these to unlock every possible dye colors in the game, then what? It doesn't affect other players at all.

Mystic Key
I heard that only rare/unique cosmetic items could be in it, but...eh, I guess this indeed could be a bit of problem if they don't provide keys to be obtained in-game. But with ArenaNet, their history, their vision, I think I will look positively on this one.

Unlock Account Bank Tab
If you can unlock more bag slot in-game with karma or the such, I'm guessing you can do the same for this too, except maybe it will just take more time than a click in the cash shop.


None of this will really affect PvP at all, as for PvE...not so much either imo.

In many mmo we seen, if ppl have higher level/better stat equips than you, or being higher level than you, you'd be affected and be at disadvantage - such as getting ks'ed, which affected your leveling speed; or because of your lower level you cannot go to the higher level/end-game area "where the funs are at".

But in GW2's PvE system, you don't encounter those problems and don't even need to care that much.
No such thing as ks, you should be thankful that someone helped you (maybe someone who had better gear or higher level than you!) cuz now you can finish whatever you're doing and still receive the exp/loot you were suppose to get even if you went solo.

Because of the DE that happening all around the world, every area is the end-game area! (only difference is that starter/low level area's mob AI will definitely be lower) No matter where you are, what you're doing, you will level just as fast as on any area, including the higher level one; the lower level zone won't just become an empty map that no one wanna go to after they hit past that level, because DE could still happen there.

With these features in GW2, no one need or should care if someone's having "better" equip or stat than them, so tell me how those cash item can affect or even harm the game?
(this guy beside me is lvl 80 while I'm only lvl 10, so what? He can't ruin my game experience at all, except maybe some hot looking equip appearance that's making me jelly; and if he entered a low level zone (say level 10) he'd still be downscaled to that area's level (maybe around level 13-15)...so what's the problem?)

P.S. Oh and, these are just the "leaked" info, they're still subject to change, they even put it under the NDA that none of the press can talk about it.

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The item drop rate boost, loot box, and mystic key are the breadwinners here. Item drop rate is a flatout advantage, and mystic key + loot box have a good chance of "pay to win".

There are PvP modes where gear does have an effect, and your actual level does have an effect. Lower level content also would give you less exp and loot than content that's your actual level, so while you could do lower level stuff, you get rewarded more for playing stuff your level. Some of the level scaling might still leave room for gear bonuses as well. And of course, people with better gear will have a stronger character than you at the same real level.

While nothing is set in stone for release yet, something in your brain should trigger your "Hmm, I should be wary of this" sense, when there is evidence of this stuff.
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I just don't think there's the need to panic or worry so much :/

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The item drop rate boost, loot box, and mystic key are the breadwinners here. Item drop rate is a flatout advantage, and mystic key + loot box have a good chance of "pay to win".
Well they said so themselves that Cash Shop user won't have advantages over those who don't use the Cash Shop at all.

Sure, those boost item are still "advantage", but these advantages are so freaking small and their price are so outrageous that at the end of the day it's hard to call that advantages.

The Cash Shop, their primary targeted audience would be those who have less time to play but would like to use their money to fill in that spot, while then the secondary targeted audience would be those who play the game like crazy as well as having the ability to purchase these luxury.
(the latter kind of ppl, they are either stupid or are winners of lives, I mean you got time and money!)

I agree with your opinions on mystic key and loot box to an extend, but this is ArenaNet, they left me a good and strong impression that they have their standard, so I be positive about these two and await their final decision; until then, it's all speculation.

But that Item Drop Boost...eh, it sounds like the "rare items" in its description are likely the kind that drops from mob instead of from dungeon reward. So that sounds like for a full hour you gotta grind/farm the mob constantly for that extra 10% chance, is it really worth it...?

I honestly wouldn't want to do whatever I want to do/play instead of grinding mindlessly for some "chance"...

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There are PvP modes where gear does have an effect, and your actual level does have an effect. Lower level content also would give you less exp and loot than content that's your actual level, so while you could do lower level stuff, you get rewarded more for playing stuff your level. Some of the level scaling might still leave room for gear bonuses as well. And of course, people with better gear will have a stronger character than you at the same real level.
Well structured PvP is not affected for sure, since upon entering you're instantly lvl 80 with full skill/trait and highest level equip/stat; WvWvW could be affected a bit, from what I recalled that you can enter it with your PvE character, your level are boosted to lvl 80 (roughly, less stat if lower level). Still not exactly all balanced for WvWvW, but I think this unbalanced Chaos with so many players in for together are what would make it interesting.

I can't say that level/gear mean nothing in PvP, but I mean it's not like their effect are so great that you can easily dominate others or be trolled by others without ways to fight back at all.

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While nothing is set in stone for release yet, something in your brain should trigger your "Hmm, I should be wary of this" sense, when there is evidence of this stuff.
Mmhm...except some ppl would over-react so badly just on first sight; not saying you here, I mean the buncha other doods on guru...

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