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06-21-2008   #21 (permalink)
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Sorry if this was already said, but I quickly overlooked the thread. Matze(Primary owner of OdinMS) should soon, if not already, go to court. This is real business, as far as I could tell from the original thread on the Odin forums. Also, eMS is located in Landgericht, so they're being sued by them I'm guessing.
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The thing was updated if you guys didn't know.

The thing is real but they shouldn't have received a bill (accidentally sent out)
 
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I think eMS is suing them.
So it's real. ._.''
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TAKE IT TO THE SUPREME COURT.

But yeah, let's see how this goes~
 
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It's kind of scary to think that any private server would be rated at a half-million dollars in lost revenue.

Makes you wonder just what Nexon is raking in with MS.
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Update~~~~~~
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Originally Posted by Matze
Today we received another letter from the LG Hamburg confirming that we don't have to pay any court costs at the moment.

Since there were some misunderstandings before and most of our readers are most likely not fluent in German let me explain again what has happened so far:


1. Our hoster received a threatening e-mail telling him to immediately take down our servers. We assumed this mail to be fake (which it may still be, but it would fit into the things that happened next) due to the style it was written in and the claim that OdinMS.de stole Nexon America's code. Of course our hoster did not take any actions after we told him our position on things.

2. We received a bill from the Landgericht (LG) Hamburg which is a German district court about a civil action between NEXON Corporation (which is the Korean parent company) and me. It is a German matter because we and our servers are located in Germany.
We are unsure about the compentency of the court since we are over 800 km away from Hamburg (our hoster still more than 600 km) and we do not know of a NEXON Corporation subsidiary in Hamburg. In Germany you have to sue someone at his place of residence or if a tortious act is involved, at the place where the act has been committed.
The front of the letter (which you can review in the previous post) basically stated that I had to pay 441,20€ of court costs. The more interesting information can be found on the back where the calculation of the costs is detailed. It can be deduced that there are independent proceedings for the taking of evidence running right now, which are a pre-trial discovery, most likely involving an independent expert. Usually you get informed if such a proceeding is started against you but is possible that it is still in a very early stage.
The amount in dispute has been set to 350,000€. This is the amount of money NEXON Corporation is sueing me for. The court costs are calculated based on the amount in dispute and amount to 2,206€ for the independent proceedings for the taking of evidence. According to the bill I had to bear one fifth (441,20€) of those costs. The paragraphs mentioned there are only referring to the laws upon which the calculation is based and don't have anything to do with the claims NEXON Corporation has against us.

3. Since it is quite unusual that you have to pay court costs before even knowing about the case I called the LG Hamburg to ask about the bill. After telling them the file number they immediately apologized and assured me that I don't have to pay anything at the moment. However this did not change the fact that the mentioned proceedings including the amount in dispute are real.

4. Now we received the written confirmation of that telephone call. The letter is pretty much identical to the previous one just with the nullification of the court cost claim.


So, what do we know for a fact?

* There is a a civil action between NEXON Corporation and me currently in the independent proceedings for the taking of evidence

* NEXON Corporation wants 350,000€

* Currently I do not have to pay any court costs.



What is happening next?
Since we were not directly contacted by NEXON Corporation it is unlikely for this to happen now.
We should be informed about the accusation or receive a summons by the court. There is no set time for that.

How long will it take?
Legal procedures can take a very long time and are barely limited. It may very well take a few months until we get more information, we can't know.

What can you do to support us?
Nothing at the moment although we very much appreciate all of the demonstrations of your support we received via e-mail. Please understand that we intentionally disabled the possibility of commenting the blog entries to avoid any further risks.
We will inform you if we see a possibility for you to help us. For now all we can do is wait.
 
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Nexon wants $689745 ._. thats not right
I believe the loss in revenue is due to reduced popularity...
I have a feeling this is going to be on the news.
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