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thanks !! been training my crystal but its familiarity went down from 48% to 0%...i dont know why maybe because i fed it some boss drops? its food meter is only 30% though

and is there a way to lessen the deduction of stamina whenever I do dungeon runs?

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i got a brown book from a quest at the 3rd town, and accidentally right clicked it...does anyone know what it does? sorry I cant provide any screenshot of the item...but I am sure that it is at the 3rd town which needs 20 drops from 3-4 and some other item i think its 4 items from the mini boss
 
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i got a brown book from a quest at the 3rd town, and accidentally right clicked it...does anyone know what it does? sorry I cant provide any screenshot of the item...but I am sure that it is at the 3rd town which needs 20 drops from 3-4 and some other item i think its 4 items from the mini boss
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ok thanks !!
 
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I got a fire fist skill note from event for the 2nd time.
It's a cash one, which I can't sell to people, NPCs or destroy.
Did I just permanently lose an inventory space?
 
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I got a fire fist skill note from event for the 2nd time.
It's a cash one, which I can't sell to people, NPCs or destroy.
Did I just permanently lose an inventory space?
Yes, you just technically lose an inventory space due to the fact that cash items stays permanently in your inventory that's why they ask you "Would you like to take this item?" before you take em out of the cash shop. As for getting them in events, i really don't know if your lucky or just
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What happens if I try to use it, since I already have it in my skill book?
 
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What happens if I try to use it, since I already have it in my skill book?
It would likely overlap it.
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I can only select to use it on an empty book slot, so that seems like it'd fill up a slot without having any effect.
And I also have a CASH note for wind blade, which I'm not sure I want to use.

That's two inventory slots I've lost...
 
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Take note that the color of the quest tab your displaying indicates that the following quests are EPIC QUESTS.

Talk to the Mayor of town 3.
*If you ever see one liners like this again it is "talk" quest.


Just socket your equipment one more time.
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Is it just me or am I the only one lagging in pvp so much? Is there any way to fix this? I'm in PH. Thanks

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Is the game predominantly cash shop dominant or is it fairly even? I know there will always be an advantage to those who stuff cash into the game but is it to a point where it's almost necessary to spend in order to be on par with everyone else?
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Is the game predominantly cash shop dominant or is it fairly even? I know there will always be an advantage to those who stuff cash into the game but is it to a point where it's almost necessary to spend in order to be on par with everyone else?
Speaking truthfully here, you will require cash shop items in order to proceed to +8 enhancement.

+7 can easily be done without any need for Flourite (protects against -1 and reset to +0) but to progress any further without the ore would be a severe risk of losing all of your enhancements.

Considering that enhancement of +7, 8, 9 is a 15% base stat increase for each upgrade, and the higher +10 is 40%, you will find a severe imbalance between those who cash heavy to those who don't.

+11 can't use ores and is the highest you can go, it is also 40%.
Only 2 people on the NA server have risked going +11 and have succeeded; they also have +10 armor.. naturally it's impossible to beat them.
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Aside from that, you can be gifted most everything in the item mall at a cheap exchange rate and balance is only a problem in PvP if you have a terrible time managing money to pay for good items, sockets, elements etc.
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it is pretty cash dependant atleast pvp wise

going into pvp without a b-slot, mana necklace. yea you probably wont get higher than B rank. (and the two of them cost 17$ total!)

and then there are ppl with full gachapon sets that give them something like 25% more hp and much higher resists

Hp is super important in pvp, because even getting hit increases your later damage (effectively trading your hp for some of their hp)
the whole set equates to something ridiculous like 130$ via conversion rate

and then dont even get me started on class balance lol.

pve is fun tho
 
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I have a lot of fun with no cash spent, but it can be pretty annoying.
Managed to buy a +8 weapon for some 130 million, and have 300+ saved up for when I want to buy again, but naturally I can't upgrade anything myself, and the armor is pretty bad. Don't see any of that for sale.

Not being able to sell equips without a cash stamp is also quite a b*. I got a few stamps during the level cap increase to 56, but obviously that doesn't solve it.

In PvE the difference is pretty obvious, but it's still really fun to play.
In PvP I can't in fact get past rank B, though most of it I think is because of class balance (I play Elsword, the most UP) and me being noob.


If it's purely for fun, I have plenty of it in PvE, and had my share in PvP.
But to have endgame stuff, no.
 
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Without Cash:
- PvE
-- Can still pawn those mobs and high lvl maps with "purple" and unique equipment at +7 (through daily quiz prize) with proper enchantments and socketed stats

- PvP
-- Can still go to B rank succesfully but higher than that takes skill or even better equipment

- Miscellaneous
-- Only dependent on events to get permanent avatars, permanent event accessories (if they don't want you to purchase El Blessing to get a permanent version of it) , inventory/storage expansion and seals, etc
-- Can get locked skills for free through quest
-- Can get character cards for free through quest


With Cash:
- PvE
-- Typically the same w/o using cash unless you have that awesome +10 weapon which typically changes the game

- PvP
-- Most B+ rank players have at least a +8 weapon and +7 armors, but meh its all about skill here (unless you receive a 100% crit everytime)

- Miscellaneous
-- Can easily get seals, market shop slot extender, offline-shop option, permanent/duration avatars and acc's, special edition pets, cash pet food(needed to make a complete version of pet)
-- Can get locked skills instantly
-- Can get character cards instantly with duration avatars as well
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Without cashing, you can still be an average player if you have decent equipment. Going on secret dungeon hell mode though would still be hard even if you have endgame items if its just on the safe +6 lv upgrade.

As for pvp, when you're up against those with high upgrades and HP/dmg reduction stacked players; it would be like facing a brick wall. You can still win since it's mostly about being able to pull of long combos as each hit adds more damage, you just have a slight disadvantage.

The only important cash item for me though would be the permanent B skill slot. It's fun to have a wider variety of skills at your disposal so you could easily deal with any situation.
 
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Oh yeah, with my limited equips and UP character, I find myself kicked of most Henir/secret dungeon rooms.

While I'd like some slightly better equips, I wouldn't want something like full +10 stuff which would totally wreck PvE. The difficulty seems fairly well balanced for me, and the second main thing that prevents me from buying cash in games is that I don't want to crush my enjoyment by being OP, I love the game mechanics.

So the stamps, B slot and inventory upgrades annoy me because they don't really wreck things.
The lack of a B slot limits the fun, the stamps make it a pain to make money and kinda show me the finger whenever I get something I can't sell.
And the inventory limit even more ever since they started giving me repeated cash skill notes which I don't want to use and can't get rid of because they're soulbound, essentially removing space from my inventory.

Anyway, the only thing I'd buy with cash is the B slot. Stamps feel like a jerk move from them and would require constant buying, and I just wish they'd let me delete cash stuff I don't want instead of taking up space.
 
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it is pretty cash dependant atleast pvp wise

going into pvp without a b-slot, mana necklace. yea you probably wont get higher than B rank. (and the two of them cost 17$ total!)
B slot is not an actual requirement in order to do well, that said some classes will get much more of a benefit from having one than others.

Mana Necklaces are currently 15m in the market which is pretty damn cheap, allowing even those who can't cash to easily pick one up and dish out that extra damage.

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and then there are ppl with full gachapon sets that give them something like 25% more hp and much higher resists

Hp is super important in pvp, because even getting hit increases your later damage (effectively trading your hp for some of their hp)
the whole set equates to something ridiculous like 130$ via conversion rate
This is actually false after the stat revamp from percentages to digits, the ice burner set Nasod Battle Suit provides a set value of 20,875 HP.

Even with ice burner sets providing the best stats they are not worth going after unless you're really comfortable with money, roughly 300-500m depending on if you want accessories.

The best thing you can do is get only the ice burner weapon for the additional socket and then wear regular cash item armors. This will run you only 120-150m to accomplish and you'll get the full benefits of 7 additional sockets without breaking the bank.

HP is important but with low defense and damage reduction that HP won't help you survive any longer than 30 seconds if they get you in a good combo.

The more important thing to do is worry about damage output and learning to remain nimble to stay alive, upon reaching A ranking the Vicious Gladiator set will take care of the rest.

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As for pvp, when you're up against those with high upgrades and HP/dmg reduction stacked players; it would be like facing a brick wall.
Additional Damage sockets are meant to negate reduction ones, if you have a high amount of additional damage sockets then it's essentially the same as your enemy having 0% damage reduction.

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The lack of a B slot limits the fun, the stamps make it a pain to make money and kinda show me the finger whenever I get something I can't sell.
And the inventory limit even more ever since they started giving me repeated cash skill notes which I don't want to use and can't get rid of because they're soulbound, essentially removing space from my inventory.

Anyway, the only thing I'd buy with cash is the B slot. Stamps feel like a jerk move from them and would require constant buying, and I just wish they'd let me delete cash stuff I don't want instead of taking up space.
Stamps are meant to only be used on stuff you're sure are going to sell for a fair price, if you stamp something that won't sell for more than double the price you paid for the stamp then you shouldn't bother.

Use the cash skill notes in your skill book and constantly replace/remove them until they are gone.
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