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12-03-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Lv3 shout DOES make the enemy bounce higher than Lv1 Shout!

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what will this do to our builds?
 
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wtf i had to reset my shout in tft cause i raised it seeing how it increased range in ob -_- but it didnt do crap for me :/ BACK THEN..

edit: just watched it, and i dunno if i see much to any difference
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Hmm, I don't see much height difference really. Maybe if i saw it side by side a lvl 1 shout. Even lvl 1 shout is high enough, you just have to dash as earlier to get its full potential
 
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Not much. +2 Shout CS item or shave 2 points off somewhere if you REALLY want to combo it, but generally shout is for cancels. It just isn't as useful as Dainn's Hand when it comes to combos.
 
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It looks the same to me.... lol maybe cuz the video just doesn't have high quality x.x

It could possibly open new combos, but Eir doesn't really need anymore melee combos since all the basics are covered... Shift away from wall, shift, halfdash, height increase, 4key shift, etc... maxing shout would be redundant IMO.. unless you could find some extra special important use for it o.o
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So um, since LoH is so useless and that there still some usable points with pieces/spirit/chain/tears maxed, is lvl 3 holy shout really worth the difference
 
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I really didn't see much of a difference...

Maybe if you had a vid where you compared a level 1 shout to a level 3, maybe...
 
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lol necropostz

and NO IT DOESNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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and NO IT DOESNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh gee I forgot it was necroposting while I was looking at random threads backthen
 
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and NO IT DOESNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ya inorite necropost lol anyways..

YES IT DOES, mariah has lvl 3 shout it actually does make a difference in height
 
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Maybe it would show more of a difference if you have split screen one side lvl 1 shout other side lvl 3 but i think it does give a small height diff but dont think its worth it.
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I don't really think it does. When you do the melee strings faster and then shout, the height is higher.
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ya inorite necropost lol anyways..

YES IT DOES, mariah has lvl 3 shout it actually does make a difference in height
WHY EVEN COMBO?!?!

U should just be doing space rape!!!!!!! air comboz + eir = noob!!!!!

basically shout should be

space shout bind

space shout pieces now!!!

if u were fighting a lime or ryan with hp regen you would be doing a net damage of roughly 3 dmg per A with max decay
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WHY EVEN COMBO?!?!

U should just be doing space rape!!!!!!! air comboz + eir = noob!!!!!

basically shout should be

space shout bind

space shout pieces now!!!

if u were fighting a lime or ryan with hp regen you would be doing a net damage of roughly 3 dmg per A with max decay
when did I say I comboed that much anymorez?

all I said was that it does make a difference LOL
 
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But...but...I air combo!! T.T
 
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WHY EVEN COMBO?!?!

U should just be doing space rape!!!!!!! air comboz + eir = noob!!!!!

basically shout should be

space shout bind

space shout pieces now!!!

if u were fighting a lime or ryan with hp regen you would be doing a net damage of roughly 3 dmg per A with max decay
I'm nooob? :<

And there ARE a few STR based Eirs in PvP. My Eir happens to be one of them, and I have her maxing bravery. Damage is so unstable, like 50s to 100+, and max decay I end up doing 10s to 30s lol.

Seeing as heals in PvP are kinda useless now, I'd just go max probably most of my skills and leave only 1 point for JoG. A side-by-side video of lvl1 and lvl3 shout would probably be easier to spot the difference... unless the difference is negligible (ie. Sieg can't even windkick if the person was that high off the ground).

And long Eir combos are basically for CD. Kinda like a double edged sword. You reset the other person's CD, then when it's off... "Muahaha sleepbind rawr ohko".
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ya inorite necropost lol anyways..

YES IT DOES, mariah has lvl 3 shout it actually does make a difference in height
lol. i told mariah and she now has lv3 shout.

you know how ez it is to shout-tears with lv3? ;p;
 
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And there ARE a few STR based Eirs in PvP. My Eir happens to be one of them, and I have her maxing bravery. Damage is so unstable, like 50s to 100+, and max decay I end up doing 10s to 30s lol.

Seeing as heals in PvP are kinda useless now, I'd just go max probably most of my skills and leave only 1 point for JoG. A side-by-side video of lvl1 and lvl3 shout would probably be easier to spot the difference... unless the difference is negligible (ie. Sieg can't even windkick if the person was that high off the ground).

And long Eir combos are basically for CD. Kinda like a double edged sword. You reset the other person's CD, then when it's off... "Muahaha sleepbind rawr ohko".
ok ya str eirs, i used to have one with 6/7 BB, used to be good until the patch, now my space attacks dont even do 500 (it used to do 1k)

thing is, you'd do more damage abusing space resets including space sleepbind rather than actual melee combos.

and ontopic: whats the point of lvl 3 shout if lvl 1 shout does the job just fine?
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fine isnt easypeasy, but idk i havnt tried it cause nomore SPs QQ
i screw up combos too much so it would be nice to have some extra height i guesssss
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ok ya str eirs, i used to have one with 6/7 BB, used to be good until the patch, now my space attacks dont even do 500 (it used to do 1k)

thing is, you'd do more damage abusing space resets including space sleepbind rather than actual melee combos.

and ontopic: whats the point of lvl 3 shout if lvl 1 shout does the job just fine?
The extra height gives a tiny bit of room for mistakes, like pressing the button a bit too late, or if you lag right when you press a skill button. A Dainn missed killing me on my Arien just because his pillar of abyss was level 3, and he used ground reset firebomb, and the firebombs just went over me. If he got level 4... I would have died. I was at 130 HP.

Just "fine" isn't always enough. I screw up on ezpz pillar icerain sometimes when I lag, and I have level 1 pillar of abyss.

And you can't really sleepbind at level 35 ._. (rebirthed)
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