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09-06-2008   #1 (permalink)
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i made some changes since the last time i posted and have 1 point left and i dunno what to get ._.
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im thinking either beads or sunlight.....or prayer but is it useful at lvl1?
keeping fmb at 2 cuz of the range

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is this a full support healer ?
 
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I'd put the point into PoS, or beads. Preferably take a point out of something to do both. The extra range on FMB is only worth it in PvP, but if you REALLY want it... x.x

You could take the point off Tears, because with HS and FMB you really don't need another knockdown.
 
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+1 holy shout or light of purification



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light of purification, beads or prayer. and yeah, I dont think its worth having lvl 2 FMB...
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It's really up to you. +1 for sacrifice is good but I remembered you're not crazy for vit gear so iono.

I don't think you should get level 1 prayer. You can use it as a last resort as a fake res during extreme situations but I think the casting time is too long. Imo max prayer or don't get it at all.

At max it only heals 1400 hp, some players have more than double that amount so yeah. Beads are too unpredictable atm and you can't really level up light of healing atm. I only have arguments for the heals lol.

Don't sweat it though cuz i have 7 extra SPs =D
 
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It's really up to you. +1 for sacrifice is good but I remembered you're not crazy for vit gear so iono.

I don't think you should get level 1 prayer. You can use it as a last resort as a fake res during extreme situations but I think the casting time is too long. Imo max prayer or don't get it at all.

At max it only heals 1400 hp, some players have more than double that amount so yeah. Beads are too unpredictable atm and you can't really level up sunlight. I only have arguments for the heals lol.

Don't sweat it though cuz i have 7 extra SPs =D
uhh so should i just get sunlight then? ._. the other choice i have is -1 fmb and get 2 ls but i hate reagents so iuno x.x
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I think you should wait. I plan to use 4 of those 7 extra points to get level 4 LS if we get the reagant NPC. If we don't get the NPC then I might contemplate getting level 1 dodge and level 1 Holy Spirit.

I need to stop spamming f23 and beg Zyrro (and other siegs) to save me from mobs !
 
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sunlight or why not light of purification?
 
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I don't think you should get level 1 prayer. You can use it as a last resort as a fake res during extreme situations but I think the casting time is too long. Imo max prayer or don't get it at all.
IMO, level 2 is the only useless level for Prayer. Level 3-5 heals 100+ per wave (9 waves in total), how can that be a waste?

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At max it only heals 1400 hp, some players have more than double that amount so yeah.
Only? Dude, that's only 100 HP short for healing half the bar of a 3k-HP-ed Knight. The only other heal that can heal more than that is JoG at level 1 and only when all the healing stars heal a specific party member.

Ok, let's say that prayer may not be the most efficient heal (1minute CD, long cast time, easily cancellable, takes considerable amount of HP/MP), but how you use a skill AND when you use it determines its efficiency.

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There's nothing wrong with maxed MP increase, but the thing is, you can easily find a substitute for the 560MP addition with a good INT gear. If you want to focus on VIT, then get maxed PoS to recover mana, IMHO. Whatever people may say, which ever works for you comes first.
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IMO, level 2 is the only useless level for Prayer. Level 3-5 heals 100+ per wave (9 waves in total), how can that be a waste?



Only? Dude, that's only 100 HP short for healing half the bar of a 3k-HP-ed Knight. The only other heal that can heal more than that is JoG at level 1 and only when all the healing stars heal a specific party member.

Ok, let's say that prayer may not be the most efficient heal (1minute CD, long cast time, easily cancellable, takes considerable amount of HP/MP), but how you use a skill AND when you use it determines its efficiency.

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There's nothing wrong with maxed MP increase, but the thing is, you can easily find a substitute for the 560MP addition with a good INT gear. If you want to focus on VIT, then get maxed PoS to recover mana, IMHO. Whatever people may say, which ever works for you comes first.
I lurves teh Prayer of healing!!! I'm not a hater at all . I think it's the best heal out there. I can't help but feel bothered when I see other healers who cast prayer that's level 1 or 2 other than fake ressing purposes. Iono i'm weird lolz. Imo, a Hybrid Eir with max light of healing and prayer of healing and maybe a few points in sunlight and higher attack spells is more efficient than an "FS" Eir with only level 1 attack spells. Maybe to each his own and i'm just lazy XD

Oh and btw qyn-chan, if I get around to it, I might take of 3 points from mana recovery cuz I don't think it makes a difference or at least I can't see it lulz (yes people will disagree) and get a high level blessed bravery. Iono, confused as well. Must have reagant npc!
 
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^ Mana Recovery > Mana Increase. I played with level 5/6 MP regen with level 6 PoS and with all the maxed heals at level 55, it was like trying to breathe through a small hole.

Also, an FS eir can deal almost the same amount of damage as any hybrid eir, who only has high level pieces. I know so, because I've been playing with an Eir with no moon pieces and one point to each sacred attack skill. And, IMHO, I'd rather spam level 8+ SoH (15secs reuse) than get maxed prayer (I love maxed prayer, but it has 60secs CD).

High level blessed bravery........ I got killed by this skill. Rather not have it.
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What's up with healers getting 1/9 Tears now...?

Especially considering Tears just got buffed in KLunia.

-1 FMB
-1 Antidote (Unless you find that you're constantly the only healer in a party, I wouldn't bother getting this.)
+1 Prayer (Not a very good healing skill, use it for Fake Res)
+1 LS (Obvious reasons)
+1 Light of Purification (Siren Raid/PVP/etc)
 
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Yeah, gettings Tears just for knockdown is like "wtf plx" since you already have HS, which is EXCELLENT knockdown, and many of the people have FMB as well (Which I very rarely have to use for knockdown, in my experience, and don't want FMB anymore...).
 
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Tears at level 1 is in no way inferior than level 9 tears because:

1) You can do simple combos with it (AAS AAAAS Tears >> AS Wave/Dodge/HS) making you a good damage healer even if you are an FS eir.

2) If I am to choose between Bullet and Tears for knockdown, I'd rather choose Tears because I know where the heck it's going to go. It can knockdown from a distance whenever HS is on CD (even if it only has 10secs for reuse, HS will be on CD).

3) And sure, Eirs can live without FMB, tears, and Shout, but think about it, where else can you put your skill points?

Tears is one of those one-point wonders.
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Tears at level 1 is in no way inferior than level 9 tears because:

1) You can do simple combos with it (AAS AAAAS Tears >> AS Wave/Dodge/HS) making you a good damage healer even if you are an FS eir.

2) If I am to choose between Bullet and Tears for knockdown, I'd rather choose Tears because I know where the heck it's going to go. It can knockdown from a distance whenever HS is on CD (even if it only has 10secs for reuse, HS will be on CD).

3) And sure, Eirs can live without FMB, tears, and Shout, but think about it, where else can you put your skill points?

Tears is one of those one-point wonders.
Tears is so not a 1 point wonder. 1 Point wonder would be SW/Fog/JoG.
Even that KLunian tourney Eir has a level 10 or 11 Tears when she kills that Tia. 171~191 vs 18~21.

It's one of Eir's most damaging skills.
 
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Tears is useful at lv.1, but it does A LOT of damage when it's maxed. I prefer tears more than max FMB, Pieces, or HS, so I would definitely reccommend maxing it if you have enough skill points.

I think the point's established.
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