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05-19-2008   #41 (permalink)
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Hey John!

Like your guide is good and all, but a tad messy. ( ignore opinion )
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Anyway. I learned something secretive that I wont say yet.

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AS CHAIN+ Heal Cancel DASH AS etc. etc.

Yet AS isn't very good for pvp unless you somehow want to risk it.

And the chain can shoot straightly till like 4-6 chains, it works.

AS Dodge Cancel* AAAAS TEARS DASH AS HS+ *Shout cancel. etc etc.

Dodge cancel is somewhat hard to perform for most eirs. HS + Shout cancel is hard to perform too .

The reason I said HS+ Shout cancel is because the selfheal skill will be on cooldown so you have no other choice to use shout.

But I dont really recormmend it because could really fail @ wall combos, and its hard to perform in PVP's

EDIT: But I do reccormend using dodge cancel to trick other people. Work alot.
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lolol it is really messy. anyone wanna clean it up? XD

thanks for your input, I'll put it in later X.x
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Add some stuff from the video in this thread in your guide.

http://www.mylunia.net/forum/showthread.php?p=276914

Also, I don't think S+Space is good to use if you're planning on using Tears after Bind in the Sleep-Bind combo due to distance issues. You'll want to actually dash back, turn, and Tears.
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I will. Just the shift away from wall thing is relatively new to me. I wanna play around with it some more to find out the easiest way to do it and share it.

And thanks for the input, I have never used Sleepbind <_<
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Title and OP updated

John, your post was baleeted so it didn't look like you were double-posting >_>
 
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Found your thread, johnny! ^.~ Your guide's handy, I'll try out some of those combos and create my own from the experience. <3

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updated with JoG and level 7 dodge. All thats left is Level 8,9 dodge and other things i can learn.... i dont know what else to add...

I think its complete, just need to pretty it up.
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Yea johnny, the only time I find a use for JoG in 1v1 is in a corner with sleepbind jog. It's better to use than fog pieces when they're close enough to a wall that pieces don't hit every hit. Also from my experience JoG does have a set pattern, and it seems you get the most hits out of it the fastest if you're facing toward them, with a very very slight distance between the two of you.
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ahhh xD i can't stand being a runner and spamer anymore =D
so i found this guide and tried out your combos >> uh but it's so difficult to hit those sacrecrows xD
always failing -:-
but your guide is really good (= thank you very much
 
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There are numerous grammar errors in your guide which I don't intend to inform you about.

V. Techniques Used in Comboing
--Half Dash
----You can half dash after AS, you just need to put a little space in between yourself and your ----opponent if you plan on hd'ing after AS.

VI. Skills and Their Proper Use
--Any Level
----Your "4-key shift" is written improperly - 3398 is the same as 338.



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Otherwise nice guide
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Gaiety: Quote cleared since it's freakin' huge >_>; It's just the OP anyway.

sorry i quoted this but i have no clue what is 882,339,6646,664,668,119,771,117...?can u tell me what it all means?
EDIT:nice guide u have there john
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if you use number pad for moving it's the direction

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upper left, up, upper right
left, none(or down as some prefer),right
bottom left, down/none, bottom right
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yeah, what point said. also its in the introduction section <_<

thanks for all the support

a lot of people were asking me about dash AS S shifting so I put that up there. updated with some more in depth stuff, and level 8 dodge. added 2 ppl to the credits, and ummm yeah that's it

I think this version is 1.0 now.

Anyone willing to pretty it up? Like... prettier than Solemn's guide? <_< it looks so nice lol
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updated with tips on how to catch level 8 dodge

expect some more shift away from walls after i play with it some more
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Level 8
Goes fing high. 'nuff said.

The most efficient use would be

AA dodge (reposition) tears. But sometimes you wanna save tears for later, so you can replace it with another skill. Same concept as 6 and 7, except you have more time to think and act.

If you don't have tears ready, just "shift" so to speak. facing right AA dodge 771 AAAA. or I think 772 AAAA... actuallly I'm not entirely sure... I'm having trouble with this.
You can replace tears with Holy Spirit if you have it at a high level. Something like AA dodge turn around HS selfheal-cancel (continue)
It does less damage than tears but its a good option if it's on cooldown, and it should hurt more than shift AAAA

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u shuld add infinite combos in ^^
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mmk, added. Also I have put in infinite combos already.

Things to add:

- More shift away from walls
- S turn
- one other thing that escapes me...
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Put in something about level 8 dodge and spacebars >:P
 
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OHH ya i remember now!! space combos!! ok thanks ralin :P ily
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Er i did a dodge level 7 combo.asaaaa dash dodge turn tears holy spirt.I don't know if some of you people can do it because my computer has no lag AT ALL.
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