Debaters is a hyphy, talkative random guild. We are also competitive (GvG, PvP, Rankings).
But we mainly focus on becoming as one family. (No leaving the guild bishes, I don't care how inactive the guild is. I will always revive it.)
[ESTABLISHED]: November 9, 2006 (1st guild made in TO)
[REAL GUILD NAME]: MasterDebaters
[APPROPRIATE GUILD NAME]: Debaters
GENERATION ONE: Newbie Age;;
Hurray, guilds are now out and as soon as the patch was done, my friend (Debate) and I are the very 1st ones to be online.
We thought about making a guild, but what shall we name it? We're perverts, we're dirty, we're nasty, MasterDebaters shall be the name! But wait, is that even apropriate? Debaters it is!
My 1st recruits were Stepmania, SiBi, Enfer, SweetFire, 7Blades, etc(I forgot)
Stepmania was mysterious - doesn't talk a lot, kind of like Duber. SiBi, Enfer, SweetFire, 7Blades(the rest) were nice and friendly.
We did a couple of boss hunts, partied, and chatted. The guild was doing fine until my internet got taken away...
I told everyone that I will be away for a long time, but I will be back. A couple of months later, I returned. Everyone left, including my best friend, Debate. Well not everyone, the mysterious Stepmania stayed. I asked why would you even stay?
"You said you'd come back so I waited" he replied. Oh shi- someone believed in me, and that motivated me to revive the guild.
GENERATION TWO: Recovery Age;;
Lumster, Haphast, Chalka, DarkFerret, HoneyTrap, RaineSage, faintryn, BuffyIcy (These are the people that I know the most) were my recruits. RaineSage, Stepmania, Honeytrap and DarkFerret were the Jr.Leaders. Everyone was friendly, and I will never forget how DarkFerret leveled so fast in a day. Anyways, for 2-3 months the guild was pretty active. We practice GvG GekkoState and JW in PvP. The guild was more active than the 1st generation. But then again, I lost my internet. No worries! My Jr.Leaders are responsible/active enough to run the guild!
After 7 weeks of being away, I came back. The guild has failed again. No one even welcomed my return, everyone was offline. The Jr.Leaders have failed. To be honest, I saw no effort from them. I made this plan called the "Debaters Movement" where everyone should explore the Caballa Island and recruit. Results = Failure, not even 1 was recruited. Ah fack this shyt lets disband the guild. But something held me back. Faintryn said these words "you're the glue to this guild that's why we didn't leave"
Seeing that he's still active and Stepmania as well, why don't we try again...?
GENERATION THREE: Golden Age;;
I recruited Xpecial, silent_tears, Valk, Saiyako, DarkestLord, iUSEguns, Lucrecixx, Shidou, DragonMageKen, Eyo, Jei, Kuisami, Million$Baby, Senie, Duber, SensezZz, Saya89, Katorskay etc. (You know who you are)
The guild was %&$% awesome. So active, I wish I could play Trickster forever. Xpecial and I rocked GvG with our Blue+Red combo; we also held the GvG rank 1 for a long time. Silent and I went to Predator often. Saiyako and Saya mooed. Senie, DMK, Eyo and Duber was just randomly weird. iUSE was old. Shidou was my faithful recharger. Million$Baby was a hardcore bunny, and Valk pawns 8D.
Jesus, this is like heaven to me. The guild chat was always full of life, and even dirty stuff :B Xpecial, DarkestLord, DMK, and silent_tears were the Jr.Leaders. I was 99.9% sure this guild will never die and stay like this - until this game called "Lunia" came out.
GENERATION FOUR: Dead Age;;
One by one, members are starting to leave for the game. Some said they'd try it for a day and come back, but they never did.
Even my greatest partner Red, Xpecial left. 90% left. I was alone, no one to talk to, no one to GvG with or be random with. If I'm lucky, there would be one or two who are online, BUT only vending in Megalopolis. Inactivity beat the shyt out of us, causing us to lose rank 1 in the rankings. So depressed, I decided to kill this guild. Nobody cared, so why should I? I know some people tried to go on to talk to me and make me happy but they're only 2-3 people. The rest didn't care, so fack you all. I decided to kick everyone and gave them the freedom to join which ever guild they want. I passed the leader to Duber and have him kick me.
I joined InMemoryOf guild. Debaters was dead.
The new guild I joined is awesome. They have a vent, a lot talked in there. They welcomed me like I was Jesus who resurrected from the dead but something's missing. The guild is awesome, and I know it, but somehow I wasn't happy. Saya89 came looking for me, Sporkie and Jei were sad. Lucrecixx cried. Yes, these are my girls from Debaters. Lucreci said that she'd make a guild and recruit the "Debaters" I kicked. She'll make a big family to show that a part of my empire is still alive and they're still there, waiting for me. Somehow, this made me really really sad. I knew I had to leave this guild I just joined in. I talked to the guild master (my friend, btw) and he understands. Having said that, he gave me my freedom and kicked me. I joined back in Debaters, Duber passed me back the leader. The old Debaters came back, we recruited a new couple of people (FireMuffin, GodofClerics, Harli, RedCrimson, GodKen, Heccan, etc) And now we are ALIVE, even though we're not rank 1, the important thing is we're back as one.
Thank you for those people who made me come back. 8D~<3
GENERATION FIVE: e-Age;;
With the combination of Valk, Ronin, especially Duber, the guild can't get any more random and funnier. This is probably the most funny, and random age in Debaters. Talking about random, FireMuffin came back to Debaters(Yes he ditched us for awhile, but he made a promise that he'll never leave ever again), and meeting Swords aka Dean through Ronin, through Pokemon! LoooooL. We tried to get rank 1 but unfortunately the ranking system is rigged for 10 wins = 1 lose. But why would that bother us? When the guild's chat is full of lulz. Yes, this is when e started, or should I say, Duber. Valk's oh prz, and Ronin's !?!??!!1one. Hahaha, but you know, the best things in life never last, and I knew that another inactive age would come, not too soon, it's predictable.
GENERATION SIX: Migration Age;;
Well uh... we grew tired of Trickster... again, and so uh, we went to this new released game called Holic. Duber started the movement btw. I attempted to make all the Debaters move w/ us but it failed. That's ok, because the deal was, we'd come back to Trickster after we have our fun. I left the guild to Lucreci, Eyo, Stepmania, and ????. Activity wise, they ran it pretty well. GvG wise, a big nosedive, lol. 2-3 weeks later we got tired of Holic, so we came back to Trickster(mainly because of the Popuri event points) which only lasted 1-2 weeks. This was also followed w/ the weird come back of DarkestLord, and Horasu.
GENERATION SEVEN: Seperation Age;;
Trickster sucked. No game content except for MyShop blah blah blah. And you saw it coming... we all left the game. An attempt to move to one game was made but just like Luc said, "we don't know what we want", and so no agreed to one game causing us to split wherever game we want. I went to the official server of Ragnarok, Muffin's at CS, Dean and Valk's at Mabinogi, Duber's at Cabal, Eimu met new friends, Lucreci's fixing her life, DarkestLord went back to MapleStory, Step's busy w/ Veil, DMK's still on TO. GoF left, and the granpa, iUSE, moved to wTe, I blame their vent ._. Kula and Jei left as well. silent_tears is just there for... you know what but doesn't log in Trickster, Eyo's gone, etc etc. Long story in a short word, seperation.
GENERATION EIGHT: End of an Era;;
It's been 3 weeks and no one has the intention to come back. Not even me. The chances of us coming back is not even close to 1%, oh well, lol. This was followed by DMK's attempt to revive the guild. He even called it the "DMK Era" which later failed after 2 days
Debaters is one of the few competitive guilds in TO and the 1st guild made in TO created by Blu and Debate. The guild was made for competitive battling but mainly for becoming one as a family. The guild has lived for many generations. For each generation, there's always a dilemma but with loyal members that sticked with the leader(Blu) even through guild inactivity, the guild was able to recover. As much as we focus on becoming one family, we also focus on becoming the best in GvG. Unfortunately, there are some people who misunderstands us, transforming us as power-hungry people to their eyes.
We're not bullies, but PvP is PvP. It's a place to kill people, friendly duels, and guild drama wars. We'll kill anyone we feel like killing but as soon as the person we attacked tells us to stop, then we will stop. What's interesting is sometimes when "we" kill someone randomly, they start calling their "pro friends" which most likely leads to a guild war in PvP.
Before we go to bosses to hunt either a specific Master Equip or a seal we always do the "calling" 1st. Calling is when every person in the group will call a "Master equip" and if anyone in the group gets the Master equip someone called, he/she should give/trade it to the person. Keep in mind that if you're not joining the boss hunt, you can't call an equip. Bossing was one of our priorities before but due to MyShop, we barely do this activity.
We don't bully/pick on people. We don't scam. We don't share accounts. We are nice and friendly 8D. Just because I said this doesn't mean we're perfect. There will always be new people in the guild that are a-holes. Always PM me or a JR.Leader if you caught a Debater acting like an ass.
We are nice to each other, and as mentioned before, we don't share accounts. Why? To prevent scamming. So don't blame the guild if you get scammed. We are always available to lend a hand to guildies and people who need help when we're not busy. I also expect loyalty from the members. Loyalty, I mean by you staying in the guild even if it's inactive. We always revive the guild when we have to. Please inform me if you're having issues with someone in the guild because if you leave the guild for some shyt reason, I won't let you back in.
This is it, the biggest of them all. Most uncompetitive people/guilds misunderstands us, causing conflicts ad rivalries. We GvG mainly because of 2 things. Fun and competition. Fun to compete with other guilds in a fair fight and competition to compete for rank 1 to prove who wins in brute force. We don't do gey rule such as 1 RACCOON RULE PLZ!?!?, 1 SKUNKER plz!?!, NO BG PLZ!?!. We fight by standard rules, rules I mean by no BS rules. We let people use any types they want, play how they want(not in a dirty, cheating way). We also don't care about levels. We'll GvG any teams, even if they're 30+ levels higher than us. Having said that, doesn't mean we'll let our lvl 50's fight lvl 200's. (Remember, fair fight. Don't exaggerate, Haters.)
-.H0W WE GvG;;
I always use a formula when creating a match. (number of players)x(5 kills) I really dislike it when someone creates a 3v3 match for us and then have it w/ 40-50kills. Most likely, we or they will run out of pots half way through which always lead to a murder match. One day, We were GvGing with some "guild" and we were winning 21-6 when suddenly we ran out of pots. It was a 40 kill match btw. Results? Murdered Debaters. We strongly believe that winning GvG should NOT BE AS WHO HAS THE MORE NUMBER OF POTIONS but who can win in their prime. When we ran out of pots, we were no longer in our prime. We were like little children getting beat up. It's like fighting without a weapon lulz.
-.M0NDAYthruFRiDAY ; GvG/PvP/Boss/Slack off the whole day -.SATURDAY ; Grind mode from 8:00AM - 6:00PM (TO time) GvG time after Grind mode. -.SUNDAY ; Grind mode just to finish booster then GvG time.