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Default Universal Xtrap problem?
So I wasn't sure where to post and ask about this but I figured this would garner better responses than in Atlus Online's forums since I've read there were issues on Fiesta because of Xtrap as well.

So I started Neo Steam but it uses Xtrap as its... gameguard? And I noticed that once they started to use xtrap (once launch started) I've not been able to shut down my laptop properly. I always had to force it by holding the power button. Now as we all know that's not good. I restored my laptop to factory settings and after avast the second thing I installed was NS. Well after I played it I couldn't shut down so it HAS to be NS (and xtrap).

So would anyone here know if I just have to quit the game so it doesn't kill my laptop? I'm using Windows Vista, is there any other way to shut down my laptop properly?

After I try to shut down, it shows my taskbar icons go away like it is in the process of shutting down but it doesn't. Trying to bring up Task Manager during this is also a no-go.
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After you close the game, check Task Manager to see if xtrap.exe or whatever it runs under is still running. If it is, close it by killing the process.

This only happens when you run a game with xtrap? As in, if you just turn on the computer, and open something else and then try to shut down, it closes just fine?
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I never see it which is the thing that makes me go wtf? It's only when I play the game with xtrap. Nothing else has ever done this before.
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Do all these from clean boot up not running other apps like IE, firefox, or any other apps. Just with and without Neo Stream.
Did you try to just boot up, run the game, exit and shutdown?

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As in, if you just turn on the computer, and open something else and then try to shut down, it closes just fine?
So are you able to shutdown when you don't run Neo Stream?

you can try posting your HJT before and after running Neo Stream or you can compare the running processes yourself.
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I'll have to reinstall HJT... I am definitely and absolutely able to shut down when I don't play. I haven't reinstalled on my laptop yet but I will if I absolutely should to check if it's really my problem or not. I've read other complaints on other forums on xtrap doing this but I don't know why I'M the one who gets it but not others...
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What kind of antivirus you're using? And also your firewall.

FYI, x-trap "cant" be seen in Task Manager as it's a "root-kit" and it's hidden. You've to use other process manager like Sysinternal's to view it.
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It's definitely Xtrap. I've had problems with it for a long time. Your laptop should shutdown if you give it some time. It takes my computer up to 30 minutes to shutdown after running a game with Xtrap.
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I've read other forums as well, and x-trap seems have some troubles with Win Vista ._.
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I never see it which is the thing that makes me go wtf? It's only when I play the game with xtrap. Nothing else has ever done this before.
I'm pretty sure xtrap stealths itself (like G*hem*Guard) after hooking all your programs to make sure you arn't cheating. You can see it using the internet, though, by going Start Menu> Run> CMD: netstat -b. There will be some connections associated with a process ID instead of a process name. That would be xTrap, the anti cheat rootk-- I mean software.

Try doing Start Menu> Run> shutdown -f
That might give you a faster shutdown. Just make sure you've saved everything you've wanted to.
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Well it acts like a virus, go figure.
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Oh well I'm using avast antivirus... I see. @_@ So just... give it an hour to try and shut down? I've done 20 minutes and then just gave up and forced it. I'm also.. I think the firewall is Windows's (yes I know not a good idea)

Using Vista Home Premium

Edit: While in game (like... when I was playing and had it installed) when I opened Taskmanager I could see Neosteam.exe and xtrap... which I thought was weird but I think I saw it on LaTale when I tried playing that on my desktop then got bored of grinding..

Any ideas why some people are affected but not others?
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It might be cause it doesn't work well with other applications causing problems sometimes even crashing the applications.
It is what you get when games want to get "protected" cheaply.
Whereby the protection is like a poorly programmed antivirus which monitors what you run, taking control and killing that program.
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XTrap runs clean on my laptop. It may be Avast!... I'm using ESET Home Security 4.
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I'm not sure... but I really like avast twt;

Just in case people wondered... this is the specs of my laptop.
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I reinstalled my HP printer along the way. xD; Turning off laptop for the night, see if it works or not.
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