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I... hope this is a good place to put this.

Um, basically, my boyfriend bought me a new laptop. It has Windows 8 on it, as most new computers do. Anyways, I looked at the wiki for W8 and it didn't really explain much. Only that there's a new lock screen, you have these tiles on the "desktop" and a new start button. A friend also mentioned something about alt-tabbing being difficult or something, I'm not sure.

So, what should I expect? I have about a week before I start using it so I want to get up to speed the best I can before then.

What exactly should I expect, anything really new (I'm a casual PC user, and I game very frequently) that I should learn about, etc?
 
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Nothing to worry about. Win8 should be easier to use, you'll get the hang of it quickly. The one thing you probably want is the start menu, there's a lot of options for that. Just google Win8 start menu and pick one at random.
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Why is that, exactly? What's the Start button for in W8 compared to W7? o.o
 
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Why is that, exactly? What's the Start button for in W8 compared to W7? o.o
Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, decided to transition the start button in W7 to the start screen (the one with all the apps) in W8.
 
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Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, decided to transition the start button in W7 to the start screen (the one with all the apps) in W8.
I apologize for my idiocy here, but... what exactly does this mean?
 
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Basically the entire Start menu has been removed and turned into a full-screen UI. To access whatever programs you want, just hit the Start button and start typing the name of program you want to use (eg. N-O should show you options for Notepad or Sticky Notes)



Other than that, the Desktop mode is pretty much Windows 7 with some enhancements. Also loving the hybrid startup and shutdown.
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Stick with W7 dear god.

Just spent almost a month with W8, got used to the Start menu and all that fancy jazz (which I liked) but doing simple things like getting to BIOS or Safe booting is beyond ridiculous with 8. Was forced back to W7 literally yesterday due to Automatic Repairing loop due to my mouse freezing up(???).

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Ahh, I see. Thanks Kotarou. It looks pretty neat, imo. I might end up keeping that instead of doing the start button thing, but maybe not. I'll see when I get it.

@Shanni ~ Well, I never really had a need/want to do any of that, so... o.o
 
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Stick with W7 dear god.

Just spent almost a month with W8, got used to the Start menu and all that fancy jazz (which I liked) but doing simple things like getting to BIOS or Safe booting is beyond ridiculous with 8. Was forced back to W7 literally yesterday due to Automatic Repairing loop due to my mouse freezing up(???).
I too had this issue but it was an older laptop and not all my drivers were compatible with Windows 8, mostly graphic drivers. I would imagine something that came preloaded with W8 would be fine.

But yeah, I was stuck in the infinite repair loop where I couldn't even boot. But it was an older laptop and reformatting is just a small nuisance for me.

I was able to get into BIOS fine to load W7 from a USB after the boot-loop, I've never had any issue with BIOS with W8 (can't speak for safe mode)
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At least you guys don't have to deal with this on a daily basis. =) Now imagine you work in the industry dealing with BSODs every single day cause your developer decided to screw things up. Total nightmare, especially when windows repair is too dumb to figure out that I swapped a driver binary.

Pro tip: For fast way to get into the start up boot menu (safe mode etc), hold shift and click restart.
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@Shanni ~ Well, I never really had a need/want to do any of that, so... o.o
I didn't think I needed to either (at the time) but not until I went to add my GFX from my old PC to the new one with W8. PC with W8 wouldn't boot because it didn't recognize the card so I had to get to BIOS and change it to Legacy boot.

My hate for W8 (from the short period of time I had with it) stems down to that god awful Automatic Repair looping bullcrap because all the options they gave to fix it would not work. (Refresh, reset, get into safe mode, reinstall W8 with CD but my PC came pre-installed; lulz)

But like I mentioned, Start menu is alright (and pretty with customization) but it takes time to get used too. Plus changing settings on apps is very annoying. Although I do miss the fast booting.

In my opinion, just stick with 7 (if you want your computer to work right ). 8 just looks fancy but if you like fancy, go for 8.


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I too had this issue but it was an older laptop and not all my drivers were compatible with Windows 8, mostly graphic drivers. I would imagine something that came preloaded with W8 would be fine.

But yeah, I was stuck in the infinite repair loop where I couldn't even boot. But it was an older laptop and reformatting is just a small nuisance for me.

I was able to get into BIOS fine to load W7 from a USB after the boot-loop, I've never had any issue with BIOS with W8 (can't speak for safe mode)
Luckily I had just gotten the PC so there was barely anything on it to get lost but I pretty much was able to do exactly what you did but boot from CD.

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Haven't personally had any problems with windows 8 besides some watchdog violation that occured a few times. Just did a system restore and got rid of it.

But anyways, I like it. A lot of people hate it, but it has a faster boot time than windows 7 and is literally the exact same thing as windows 7 except the start menu is now a screen. Which if that really bothers you, you can just download a mod for windows 8 which puts the start menu back the way it used to be. I'd say upgrade.

Edit: However, like shanni said (didnt read till I was done), If you aren't really looking for anything different other than a faster boot time (startup time from power on to login screen), than I wouldn't really spend the money on the upgrade, there's really no difference.
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The only issues I've ever had with it involve trying to get it to sleep and that fix was as easy as just shutting down instead of sleeping since they both take about the same time anyways.

I upgraded from W7 to W8 and there was no major difference in my opinion. I literally just stay in desktop mode 95% of the time anyways unless I'm looking for something very specific.
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