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04-24-2012   #2193 (permalink)
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The main problem that i had with it all was how i kept getting messages from his friends and their stories on what happened differed.
Story 1:
He payed me first. Then, I gifted him the items. Then after i gifted him i was dissatisfied. Then, i asked him for more. (Impossible Because it was Gift First)
Story 2:
I gifted him the items. Then, he payed me and then i called him a scammer.
Story 3 (The Most Outlandish):
He payed me and then i didn't give him anything. Now this lie i should screenshot but i wasn't thinking of it. (I proved this story wrong when i posted the pictures showing i gifted him)
One Last Thing to say to Merceless is "Try to keep your stories straight before you tell your friends to message me."

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Originally Posted by Paulo
wow 1hour? Some friends here saw i took like 10mins to get it and they know my PC is not that good so dont tell me it was 1hour-.-
Yeah and way to go and lie right here again, because in the 2nd screenshot i believe it was the one where you say "grow up" its almost an hour away from the first screenshot so good try on that one.

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Originally Posted by Valese
Well.. I've read your story, Merceless' story, and the comments posted by friends and other people.

I'm a friend of Merceless, but that doesn't stand in my way of pointing out something that bothers me in 1 of your screenshots.

Now I don't want to believe Merceless is a scammer just because he's my friend, but as I've been through something similar like this before where I had all the evidence needed except 1 thing, and the scammers' friends were all supporting him while knowing he scammed me, I don't want to do the same.

A few of these have been pointed out already by posters above me.

1. If you really are a regular seller, you should know that there /are/ scammers everywhere, and you should never gift first if you don't know the person well.

2. 12k MyShop for 480m = 40m/1k, which isn't cheap at all in my opinion. If you did want more money afterwards.. you really need to get over it and grow up and stop being greedy. If he really didn't pay you... then that's sad and I feel for you -_- but seeing as you didn't take enough screenshots to prove your case, all you can do is learn from your mistakes and do it different next time to prevent getting scammed again. (Like not gifting first, for example.)

3. I think it's very weird of Merceless to say "o.o Ramdom much?" and "Grow up" after you repeat "Pay me" several times. So I don't even want to say anything about that.

4. NOW. The only thing that bothered me about all of this was something I haven't seen anyone mention, /at all/.

Merceless claims he was offline for 10 minutes, while the victim says the 2nd screenshot was taken an hour after Merceless got gifted and logged off. If anyone even bothered looking at the time stamps, you could clearly see that screenshot #0135 was taken at 15:43:50, then screenshot # 0139 was taken at 16:39:43. Which is approximately an hour later. I think it's highly unlikely for the victim to have "prepared" false evidence, considering the fact he's lacking enough evidence as is.

Also something else that bothers me in the 2nd screenshot is the amount of Galders this person has on him. He has 1.6m, the 480m is missing. The 1 hour time lapse, in this case, doesn't work in his favor, he could've went and banked it, traded it to another character, and so on.

Last thing I want to point out is the number of screenshots. I saved them to zoom in and noticed the names are "Screenshot0135" / "Screenshot0139" and "Screenshot0140". Mind if I ask what the 4 screenshots taken in between the first and 2nd are of?
Yes, i agree with many of your points especially your fourth one.
The third point you made i didn't catch in the chat box was when he said "who are you?". But yeah no one else thought that was strange with the random much.
Your Second Point; yes, i know it was foolish but he seemed so serious and trusting it was a silly thing to do.
Your First Point; I usually sell to my friend however this time i was going for a big profit.
Your Fourth Point I was in a panic i wasn't think people were asking f i screenshot. Also no truly didn't move any money i stood in that general area the whole time i sent to mail or did any trades however i don't have a way to prove that. Finally and how he posts a lie on the forum, because he was offline for close to an hour.
The missing screenshots were just of every time i gifted something to him I'll post them nowscreenshot0136.jpg

screenshot0137.jpg

screenshot0138.jpg

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Originally Posted by YenSai
I agree, yes, but everything Merceless said makes sense. The trade cancel could've been to anyone..Had it been to Merce, like he said, he logged off to get his LK equips to comp, and he could've cancelled the trade because he already paid..

This SS with him calling me stupid and telling me to stfu doesn't make him look any more mature/trustworthy either...
Spoiler!
OMG! Why didn't i realize this before WarrenBuffet is on your friendslist because it shows him logging off. I Usually sell to him and he knows me to be completely trustworthy! ask him about me (IGN:ThisGuyy or MrMyshop) he knows that i am trustworthy with selling myshop.

Last edited by Shanni; 04-25-2012 at 01:48 AM.